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Japan prepares regulation requiring Apple to allow sideloading::As the Digital Markets Act antitrust law passed in the European Union, Apple has until March 2024 to let users...

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[–] pearable@lemmy.ml 93 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Having app developers be able to avoid Apples forced 30% fee is great. The fee is pure rent seeking masquerading as curation.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Their curation is terrible too. The app store has so much shovelware crap

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 73 points 2 years ago (5 children)

legislation is expected to be sent to parliament next year and focuses on four areas: app stores and payments, search, browsers, and operating systems.

We also get Linux on iPhones??

And the talk is just about sideloading... :-)

[–] electric@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Big if true. Apple owners might actually be owners of their devices.

[–] driveway@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] flooppoolf@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Go see all the crazy kids on r/jailbreak asking the same questions over and over

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Not true. I'd love to be able to jailbreak again. I'm locked in to the ecosystem by work and a backlog of apps 15 years deep.

Granted I'm on Lemmy so I guess I'm not a normal iOS user

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah it's literally a status symbol amongst kids.

My kid is desperate for one but can't give me a single compelling reason apart from they're seen as cool.

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like Apple products because they just work. I have tried Windows, Linux, & Android, but I ultimately decided on just using the Apple Ecosystem (except for my gaming computer) because the products just work well. Sure they cost more and are locked down but I am willing to sacrifice those things for things for the boost in productivity.

Apple isn’t for everybody but their products have upsides.

[–] r0bi 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

They just work (usually) if you want to use their products the way they want you to use them.

If you have your own idea how to do something on your own that's any different, you will slowly go insane.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They just work (usually) if you want to use their products the way they want you to use them.

Well.... Yeah? That's the case for most products.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Based Japan once again. I would love to see other countries requiring this too, but I'm not going to hold my breath unfortunately.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I mean, the EU has already done this and now Japan is doing the same. So i guess it's very well possible that other countries besides Japan will also follow suit.

[–] Cicraft@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Hehe Brussels effect go brrrr

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I tried to install an old version of San Andreas recently on my phone cause the last update broke controller support (which I actually bought with money).

Apparently we don't own our Android OBB directories anymore because of "safety".

So far the "we Android users already have this"...

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yep, it's unfortunate that manufacturers are taking more and more control away from users. That's why open-source software like Linux is so important, you can do anything you want to with it.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Back in the old days, Android OS used to be Open Source. You can still get firmware built up from the last release, such as CalyxOS, but in order to install it you have to buy directly from Google with the Bootloader Unlocked as a feature.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not really. Fairphone also has the Bootloader unlocked.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

That's true.

[–] berrodeguarana@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are Fairphones feasible right now if one wants to play even intense games like emulating PS2 or Switch?

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Idk. Give me your Emulator and i'll try it for you

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[–] FMEEE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yeah Android is Linux. But Manufactures are limiting it so hard that it is sometimes nearly impossible to get a custom ROM on the phone.

[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes. The openess of the operating system is meaningless if the phone's firmware isn't open.

[–] giggling_engine@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

It's open source so that anyone can manufacture a phone for it (good for business), not so you could install whatever you want on the hardware (bad for business)...

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah but unfortunately with Android it's what Google wants and not what the end-user wants. That's why Linux itself is very important, the user gets to decide what they want to do with it.

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (7 children)

sideloading would be nice; i have no idea how people can get proper work done on an ipad as of now (especially with apple at one point acting like it was only a matter of time for them to replace laptops). everything is so overly glossy and surface level and designed for children or the elderly; you can't actually DO anything!

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even with side loading, you will still be pretty limited as the iPad is decently locked down. First of all it needs a decent window manager. That alone would go a long way.

But honestly, these things should be running full blown macOS when they are docked to a mouse and keyboard.

They had an 11” air at one point, so screen size can’t be the issue.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This could be the real "pro" iPhone. Running m3, acting as a phone by itself and throwing a full macOS with Office and Adobe Cloud apps when docked.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yuh-huh! Just get a terminal emulator from the App Store. I will be just a few dollars a month. Then you can ssh into a Linux server you have somewhere.

See it’s an entire computer!

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] M500@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No you do not get it.

At Apple we make magical devices that are unlike anything done before. We have truly revolutionized computing with over priced hardware.

If you don’t have a Mac then you are not cool and not good at your job.

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[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the point. They want people to use devices where information is given to them, but they can't interact with it or give something back.

They literally want us scrolling tiktok all day before it's time to get ready for work.

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[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Cool. This would be great. Hopefully a push to allow that in all other countries.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Now that's what I'm talking about.

[–] steve_floof@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Life finds a way

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