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Star Citizen Introducing a $48,000 Ship Bundle, but Only for Players Who Have Already Spent $10,000::Star Citizen developer Cloud Imperium Games is releasing a ship bundle for its controversial space simulator that costs an eye-watering $48,000.

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[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 124 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Because there are lots of people in this thread who paint whales as "rich schmucks" who can afford to spend $48k without thinking twic. This is a myth that lots of the gaming industry itself loves to perpetuate, because it absolves them of taking responsibility for ruining lives.

Research has shown repeatedly that whales are much more likely to be people with mental health problems and/or gambling addicts. That Star Citizen isn't a freemium game with loot boxes makes it marginally better than - let's say - Genshin Impact, but offers like the bundle in the article is still predatory.

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[–] CheesyGordita@lemmy.world 84 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I know it’s not the same, but you could just play elite dangerous which is an actual game, and you can get new ships through a crazy new innovative mechanic called “playing the game”

[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

I like elite dangerous but I don't like that you have to spend hundreds of hours grinding just to accomplish even the most minor gameplay advancement. No Man's Sky and Starfield are more playable space games that that grindfest. I wish someone would just remake elite dangerous for normal people.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I want someone to make Elite dangerous but with single player progression. You get to pew pew in a bunch of increasingly fancy ships and at the end you fight an alien ship or something. 200 hours to complete and then go play something else with a nice experience.

[–] villainy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] NOPper@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It really depends on what you want from your game. I happily spent hours in my lil hauler playing space trucker, and the only real thing that's changed since then is I have access to bigger space trucks. I've been on a big exploration run for the last 80 or so hours of playtime and I'm enjoying being able to just relax and exist in my lil virtual spaceship. I don't need to feel like a number goes up every session, but I'm a weirdo.

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

Too bad NMS is boring and Starfield is even more boring

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[–] tory@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Never play Star Citizen, even if it somehow becomes playable. Got it.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some poor fuckers are getting fleeced.

[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Kinda hard to consider them poor if they can afford the $10k it costs to whale out $48k more :-\

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[–] Xavier@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I wonder if games that require such farfetched amounts of money should be included in the Luxury tax?

A lot of those "whales" have cognitive difficulties and/or gambling addictions issues. Since many if these game developers/publishers have no qualm blindly milking and profiteering. It should be no surprise if some sort of tax is levied to help societies (à-la-tobacco or sugar tax) attenuate the ravages of gambling addictions.

Moreover, Star Citizen has been released over 10 years ago while been continually updated.

At what point is it just senseless greed that has taken over the game?

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Released is a strong word, lol. Agreed though, it is completely unprecedented

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

It's one thing to drop a few bucks here and there into a game you enjoy but when you start spending 10k on a fuckin game you have a serious issue. Even if you're ultra wealthy, do you really have nothing else you could waste that money on? I think it's time for a serious crackdown on predatory gaming.

[–] CulturedLout@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Luxury tax doesn't apply to dealers/retailers. It would just get piled on the final user. Which would be fine for the "richer than god" types, but not so great for some poor bastard with an addiction who can't help themselves.

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[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

According to a friend of mine that plays, the whales were asking for this feature so they didn't have to go through the purchase process for each ship

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[–] menemen@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Remembering when it was not yet released, thinking "This looks kinda cool, but the business model looks terrible". Seems it got much worse.

[–] asyncrosaurus@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago

Seems it got much worse.

Seems like it's going great for the developer.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Not real life money right?

[–] papertowels@programming.dev 60 points 2 years ago

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[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can only assume you've no idea what Star Citizen is. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[–] ours@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Bless his heart.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I'd be willing to pay with real life money if they were real life spaceships.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Cap'n i see the whale thar she blows

[–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To quote Thor. Star citizen is a storefront pretending to be a game.

[–] Ddit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

He's talking about Jason Thor Hall @ https://www.youtube.com/@PirateSoftware

Who's behind https://store.steampowered.com/app/567380/Heartbound/

His middle name is Thor and that's what he goes by (who wouldn't)

He's recently gotten a lot of attention because his YT Shorts have just exploded.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

You can get some pretty good gaming info during thunderstorms.

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[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

WTF!

At the time of this article’s publication, Star Citizen had raised $658,161,596 from more than five million accounts.

The game has not even officially been released!!

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, Star Citizen is world renowned master of squeezing immense amounts of cash from its userbase.

First, they have many ship tiers, and as the most basic ones cost $40+, they feel comfortable charging more for bigger ships, with some ships costing well over $1000.

Second, they commonly introduce wipes in updates, and those wipes only affect everything players accrued in-game, not purchases made with real cash. So you either accept having your entire progress wiped again and again, or you give up and buy your fleet for cash (and any meaningfully gamechanging ship costs hundreds of dollars). The developers claim that this is due to bugs and exploits being found, and that eventually everything will stay forever, no matter how you bought it, but they are obviously aware of the situation and will probably make sure this never happens.

Third, the game does a good job at immersing you into the universe, so some players really go for a second life there. For them, it is the successful counterpart of the Metaverse.

And just like that we end up with people spending insane amounts of money on in-game ships. Half of the players I know spent over $300 on the game, and I personally know people who spent upwards to $8000.

Scary part is that many of them aren't rich, and one of the people I know literally saved for years and hid $8000 from their family to buy a ship pack. He is living in Ukraine, a country with GDP per capita of $4350.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wait, in real money? Or like video game money?

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If this is a genuine question you have some epic story to treat yourself to about how the bestest game of all times was ~~made~~ promised

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Genuine question my friend lmao

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

You're up for a ride if you have a read.

Game is 11 years in alpha development, still a buggy mess that requires a supercomputer to work smoothly, only recently got a second star system (dozens more are pinky promised, and hundreds promised since beginning of development), is constantly exploited in all ways possible, barely has any actual content...

...which absolutely didn't stop it from earning over half a billion dollars (yes, billion) by selling in-game ships for hundreds and sometimes thousands of very absolutely real dollars, as well as such monstrous packs.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (7 children)

That $48K can get you a real plane though, or boat. But maybe someone paying that for ships in Star Citizen has both already 😅

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If you are rich enough to afford to pay for this, you're too rich.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

A few of the most broke-assed people I know in my gaming circles are all in on this game. The rest of us tried to gently prod them away but it's like a cult.

It is 100% a multi-level-marketing feeling I get from the active players that keep trying to reach out and get us in on it. I'm talkin late 90s Quixtar MLM pyramid scam feels.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 8 points 2 years ago

The most scary part is, it's not only the rich. I knew people who have put their life savings into the game.

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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This kind of news really allows me to know which games not to play.

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[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

unfortunately by todays late stage mercantile economy this is just a bad deal

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Honestly, at this point, if you buy this you and SC deserve each other, have fun.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Game cancer

[–] squid_slime@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I hope an underground software liberation group (cracking) can make this software accessible for everyone.

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[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Star Citizen is what iRacing players look at to feel better about themselves

Actually that's too mean to iRacing players since iRacing works

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

My buddy loves this game, but I just don't really get it.

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