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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not sure I like the sound of the Gas lobby leaking....

[–] Lubricate7931@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago

No matter the heat source. Step one needs to be insulating our homes to reduce the requirement for heating and make some work anyway. Especially heat pumps.

Why doesn't the UK gov have a clear strategy for this? Leaving it to the homeowner in a cost of living crisis and with increasing mortgage costs means the vast majority cant do it alone

[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 5 points 2 years ago

I'm not really sure that headline is warranted.. if there are 30,000 grants available, setting a target of installing 60,000 heat pumps seems a little silly.

Really the government needs to get its arse out of its anus and realise that without grants they're utterly unaffordable.. and they barely are with.

[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Explaining why the government grant offered isn't enough for most people to get one. Was having a conversation with people on here about heat pumps yesterday. Interesting read.

[–] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The government should in my view be investing much more to insulating houses, installing heat pumps, and installing solar panels with house batteries. These measures should be within reach of all households.

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Solar panels and batteries at the moment are paying back in about 7 years and that is without any government grant, you can potentially get it down to 5 with a bit more risk taken on with not tier 1 kit and installers. Or put another way you pay up front for the next 25 years to pay 8p a KWh (instead of ~35p).

Comparatively I can't make a heatpump do anything but cost more for heating over the next 25 years, it never pays off in its lifetime. An air to air heatpump however should be equivalent to a boiler but they cost about 1/3 of the to water ones which seem to be enormously overpriced compared to other countries that do something similar (Norway).

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

Bloody tell me about it.

I did a breakdown/digest of the new ECO+ initiative a while back.
And while it was functionally useless for me (no allowance for DIY materials), it was definitely targeting the low hanging fruit (thermostats, loft insulation, CWI, EWI)

[–] david@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

....and as tick follows tock, Michael Gove goes on a media round saying we should delay the heat pump plans.

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