Made the switch to Aegis a little while back. I like it a lot.
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Aegis is just for Android. This is about a desktop program being discontinued.
There is OTPClient [0] for Linux which can be used to import your Aegis keys.
That's an awful decision by Twilo. I deliberately only install Authy on my Desktop computers because they're always at home and cannot be easily stolen/lost like my phone.
Only reason to choose Authy over anything else tbh. This just basically killed the product.
I use KeePassXC on desktop
I would prefer this one for UI consistency and it is open source and we can setup PWA as well https://github.com/ente-io/auth?tab=readme-ov-file#-download
Definitely. Having my 2FA in a local database that I can back up physically is the best.
Yeah I'm in the process of switching my OTP stuff to keepassxc. Better hurry that up.
I did it all using this. Took me about half an hour to migrate all my 15-something accounts to KeepassXC.
Twilio is under a lot of pressure from shareholders eager for more profit (CEO was just pushed out), so I figure this is just the start of a long wave of enshittification. I switched to Authenticator Pro (Android), which is much better in every way. Can backup between devices, has WearOS support, and a proper dark mode. I'd use bitwarden, but I hesitate to keep my TOTP keys in same place as my passwords
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Plugging pass/Password Store/Android Password Store for anyone wanting a good wrapper around git+pgp for desktop/Android using a YubiKey or similar hardware security key. It has pretty good OTP support built-in.
I use Authy on mobile and have for years. When they gonna discontinue that?
Aegis is a good alternative. Took a while to do the transfer as they don't allow export of the tokens.
I just want a selfhostable Authy clone. Is that too much to ask?
Bitwarden can do everything Authy can afaik
It is a bad idea to have your password manager and 2FA be the same app though. You want to spread it around so one attack can't break your logins.
You aren't wrong and I should rethink that. But BW is so damn handy.
Good point.
Is it realistic (i.e. is it secure enough) to self-host 2 Bitwarden, one for passwords, one for authentication?
Or would splitting that between 2 Bitwarden logins work?
I just throwing stuff at the wall, I haven't thought either of these through yet.
While that is true, the risk of someone brute forcing into an account of mine on the login side than on mine. That's what I use 2FA against. If they managed to break into my vault, they'd have broken into my Mailserver and whatnot, so....
BitWarden can generate 2FA tokens? I don't see any option for that on Android
Vaultwarden can. Self hosting isn't for everyone though.
Given that the comment was a demand for self hostable Authy, I think they might wanna :P
Ha. Apparently two comments worth of context is too much for me to handle.
Lol.
Welcome to the club, mate! 🤣
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Need to pay for a subscription for TOTP. It’s like $10/year for the personal plan.
Which is damn near cheap compared to other companies. I personally use dashlane (I know I know I should self host but I don't trust myself for something as important as passwords) and that's $60 for their premium package.
Cool, I might check it out then. I knew I'd have to move off of authy eventually.
2FA need a active subscription i believe https://bitwarden.com/help/authenticator-keys/
Or you self host
I self-host, but I still pay for their premium because it's a damn good product I want to see kept maintained for years to come.
I mean, cmon, it's $10. Almost cheaper than a banana.
Lucille?
Glad someone caught that.
That's a good point.
I'm not paying currently because I don't use their online service.
Adding them to my "Annual Donate to Software I find Useful" list, that I just started this year.
I despise subscriptions. For apps that have a hosted portion, I understand them, but I'd still rather pay annually.
It's $10 annually in case you thought it was monthly. I'd imagine if you went in and subbed, then cancelled the sub, you'd still have your year you paid for. But yah, I'd like an option to not auto-renew, even though I do.
Oh, I saw that it was $10 for the year. That's crazy cheap.
I just want my stuff on my stuff, after the Lastpass debacle last year - it was the last straw to push me into self hosting everything.
True!
Thanks.
Yeah, I already run Vaultwarden. But like others I don't really want to combine my tokens and passwords.
I just use FreeOTP+ on my phone. It's a fork of a Red Hat authenticator, and completely open source and available on F-Droid.
No sync, but you can export the TOTP secrets if you want to back them up/move them.
Thanks was looking for something like this
Bitwarden has TOTP support with a pro license. Or you can just selfhost (using vaultwarden) and have all the features instead.
I didn't even realize they had a desktop app. I've been using the mobile app for a few years. I was just thinking about installing the mobile app in my WSA install, since it just didn't even occur to me that there was a desktop version. I guess now it doesn't matter either way.
OK. Can someone please help me how to export?
I have Authy 2.4.2 on Linux desktop (too recent for the --remote-debugging-port option used here to work) and Authy 24.13.6 on Android.
I use mostly the Android version, but sync to the Desktop / Chrome App was a nice backup. If they discontinue this I'm not sure what's next and would prefer some Android app where I can access the backup. I have Bitwarden Pro if this helps, but my first concern is to get the tokens out of Authy.