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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 83 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Kakao in the near future, trying to handle Tachiyomi forks:

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm assuming this one is because he's just going to tell them to fuck off.

There's no legal basis to take it down.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Perhaps Mihon will tell Kakao to fuck off. But if Mihon doesn't, someone else will. [Plus I wanted an excuse to post a cute kitten .gif]

There’s no legal basis to take it down.

Even when there's no legal basis, a corporation is better prepared to potentially lose a legal battle than a bunch of amateurs are to potentially win it. It's a form of corporate trolling - "both of us know that you'd win if you fought, but also that you won't fight".

That works fine if you're a corporation dealing with one group that dares to stand between you and the money. But it fails if used over and over, as eventually one group will say "you want a bloody legal battle mate? We're focking getting one."

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Quick scanning of the repo, Mihon didn't host or even mention the extension to read external source. So it basically just an application platform. If Kodi still survive, I think this will too.

The mistake of tachiyomi is putting the extension to read piracy website together with the base application

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tachiyomi is a fancy web browser. This is like suing Google because chrome can be used to access pirated content.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Hilariously, I'd never heard of any of this stuff until this company decided to Streisand the fuck out of themselves.

And the best part is that they went after the container instead of the content, so all they did was make their problem even worse...

[–] shatterling@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Thanks OP, an FYI you can restore a Tachiyomi backup from Mihon to migrate straight across 👍

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[–] autokludge@programming.dev 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Excellent, have been watching this.

Warning from the release:

Beware of any new fake versions of Mihon or Tachiyomi.

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I just opened an issue to add it to IzzyOnDroid's repo

[–] Cameri@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Cut off one head of the Hydra and another two grow in its place.

[–] Nugelz@programming.dev 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anyone got any good extension repos? I'm more into western comics than manga

[–] Vineyard8927@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How trustworthy are those extensions? I see they are APKs.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

All of tachiyomi extensions are APKs since a long time ago. Previously we just trust it because it's hosted by tachiyomi itself. So you should still worry about the trustworthiness because it's hosted by unrelated person, but shouldn't because it's apk.

Maybe in the future Mihon should implement support for non-apk extensions, but for now we can only use that

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Nugelz@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Thank you, have made a post this now

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

you're gonna wanna get off GitHub fast

[–] SBS1313@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The extensions seem still untrusted even after reinstalling. Does it need third party extensions??

Edit: will extensions be updated??

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Browse> extensions>tap shield>trust

worked for me

[–] SBS1313@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

I did that but what i meant is that when will it stop or when will it restore back to not sending errors anymore...

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, it needs third party extensions.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's the difference then?

Is it the same software, a rebrand, a publishing team change?

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

It's a fork.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's a fork, done by a previous Tachiyomi developer and maybe a TachiyomiSY developer too. So it's partly a publishing team change, as the main developers are different.

Since Mihon is exactly the same as Tachiyomi, besides changed branding and requiring Android 8+, it's also a rebrand.

Edit: It's also functionally exactly the same software.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

That's fast, I just looked at the GitHub repo this morning and didn't see anything there

[–] Kazumara@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought this was supposed to be here: https://git.mihon.dev/mihon, without github

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Probably mirror.
Maintainer is the same.

[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Anyone know why the change? I'm aware that they were being targeted but I thought removing the extensions had appeased the kcorp.

[–] reddthat@reddthat.com 35 points 2 years ago

The devs just said fuckit afterwards, as you do when you get a lawsuit saying your about to be so far in debt because of your side project that your whole life will be turned up side down.

I would have done the same.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Kakao (or whatever they're called) were going after everyone involved, so Tachiyomi has been deprecated, one of the devs forked it and will continue development.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Mihon is from the tachiyomiSY devs, ~ick~ I don't know if they are the same but from a glance they are different.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A long time Tachiyomi developer made the commits making branding changes to Mihon, so they might work together. But as they didn't fork TachiyomiSY, its dev might continue work on it too.

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[–] lupec@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why ick? Guess I'm out of the loop on that one

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That was an unfortunate typo, I wanted to type "I don't know if they are the same". Sorry for the confusion.

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[–] johnlobo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

official tachiyomi is dead

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Sorry, I'm super tech/software illiterate, can someone explain how to transfer what I had on tachiyomi over tonthis new app?

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

Rn it's just reskinned tachiyomi so export backup > import backup in mihon

[–] Ralis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

It's simple. Go to Tachiyomi and create a backup. Then, in Mihon, during the first setup, it should give an option to restore backup. You can also resotre backup in Mihon settings, then go to extensions and (trust) the restored extensions.

It's pretty much the same app at its core. So no need to change file names or formats. Everything should transfer.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

~~If anyone's wondering why Mihon looks slightly different than Tachiyomi, the reason is this is a fork of TachiyomiSY, which has some changes/features over Tachiyomi (e.g. a predicted next chapter release date).~~

What I wrote is all wrong. I've just looked through the commit history and Mihon is a fork of Tachiyomi and currently it doesn't have any changes besides branding and being Android 8+.

I don't know why I believed otherwise, but it might be F-Droids 3 months old Tachiyomi build, which lacked many features compared to up-to-date TachiyomiSY.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Latest version of tachiyomi also has prediction of next release

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[–] OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How is this different from TachiyomiSY?

Edit: SY will continue by forking Mihon

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As far as we know, TachiyomiSY has the same relationship with Mihon as it did with Tachiyomi previously. Maybe it'll change since SY's dev is also said to work on Mihon, but we'll see.

At the moment Mihon is the same as Tachiyomi with changed branding.

[–] OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thanks! I'll stick with SY for now since I'm getting errors with the sources for some reason whenever I migrate and it's a pain to fix.

[–] johnlobo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

that was fast

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