I found Lemmy through Reddit because of the protest. If anything, it works.
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Same thing for me. But I mostly lurk on reddit. I'd like to make an effort to post here though!
er, nothing? I found out about lemmy from reddit
In my experience lemmy was the most suggested alternative on reddit and then tildes, the only time i ever heard abou kbin was the day before the blackout with the subreddit ban and then during it.
I'd never heard of kbin at all until I actually signed up to a Lemmy instance.
I'd heard Lemmy mentioned somewhere before (I've searched for reddit alternatives a few times in the past as I got increasingly annoyed by their pushiness towards the app), but only really took notice of it a few days before the blackout when I saw it mentioned many times on reddit.
Kbin I think is really new, I've only heard it mentioned fairly recently, and I been exclusively using the fediverse for about a year now
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I did hear of Lemmy first, with immediate criticism about supporting the CCP and so on. The second alternative mentioned on Reddit was kbin which is where I went first.
Unfortunately kbin runs on PHP and you can really feel the site lagging at times, no clue why someone would port a stable Rust code base to this mess. lemmy.ml is lighting fast in comparison and has working federation.
I did also try sh.itjust.works as an alternative Lemmy instance (which would be nice as it blocks lemmygrad.ml), but it's in Canada and I'm in Europe, so the latency is noticeable.
So now I'm here, oh well.
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You can promote it all you want on reddit, just always be polite and not obnoxious in any way or form. Not saying that you personally would be, but speaking in general terms too much energy into convincing people to come here might have a negative effect on other people's motivation.
This! if I see people ask for alternatives I will recommend them, but I'm currently not going out of my way to force it down anyone's throat.
I found it on Reddit and seen it around, it‘s spreading. Might write some comments myself too, as long as I still have Apollo to do so; so far I am liking it here.
As the others have mentioned, I found out about Lemmy through multiple posts on Reddit. So at least at the time, a few days back, mentions of Lemmy were not being blocked / banned.
About promoting now: I think what would be better is if the supportive sub mods at Reddit made a community (or sublemmy, or whatever it should be correctly called) here first, and then posted a link to it on their blackout page on Reddit.
All that being said I am not sure I want a lot of the existing Reddit horde to invade Lemmy, but I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too.
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If you post a hyperlink on Reddit to Lemmy, it will be autoremoved.
Try it now
Every post about Lemmy gets automatically banned 🤔
Pirate family on reddit exposed me to the wonders of lemmy, so at the very least piracy mods are based. Indefinite black outs too instead of that weak 2 day protest.
I dont think it's againts rules, I found Lemmy because of Reddit.
None of the Mod posts regarding the Blackout mentioned Lemmy as far as I‘m aware
Rumor has it they banned a lot of mods and communities for encouraging exactly that to their subscribers, so it was considered quite risky.
Something weird happened to me, I was no longer subscribed to two of my most active subs after having been subscribed for a decade. So when they went private I was locked out. I had only messaged one moderator about the protest and they went private.
I promoted the shit out of it right before the blackout. Only got banned from one subreddit. Who cares, not like I'm going back.
Nothing so far.
The automod post I have set up at r/edc links to the sopuli.xyz/c/edc version.
At r/knives, we have both the lemmy and squabbles versions linked.
Neither myself, or the mods I comoderate with at the knives sub have faced any issues. This could change, but as long as you aren't spamming the hell out of it, they aren't coming after mods, or users doing it here and there.
There was the new sub, r/lemmymigration, that got pulled down then reinstated after backlash though, and the person running that got banned for a bit. There's also been reports of anti-protest mods requesting, and getting, senior mods removed in their favor. All of which is bullshit that merits huffman getting kicked in the nads, but it was expected.
Lemmy development really needs another couple weeks or a month. There are over 100 instances peering and it's really pushing the database systems hard with the 100,000 users already. Database tuning and query optimization in the code is the order of the day. I also think some of the new front-end apps for web and smartphones would help.
I'm genuinely asking and don't mean this the way it sounds, but is this supposition or have you observed this yourself?
Everyone says their own instances aren't very resource intensive. Even the larger instances like lemmy.world don't seem to have huge specs.
Although there's a lot of subscriptions there doesn't seem to be an overwhelming amount of content being produced. The most active threads in /home have like 150 comments over 2 days? I don't have the data and this really is mere supposition but it just doesn't seem like that much load.
I did see they pushed a new version with some db optimisations so that's probably an indicator that you're right. Also things just feel unstable. Unusually long page load times or 500 errors just occasionally. Things definitely aren't great I'm just not certain that db linkages are the problem.
I’m genuinely asking and don’t mean this the way it sounds, but is this supposition or have you observed this yourself?
Yes, and I've been building social media message systems since 1984, and I'm a published author on messaging systems. I described some of the data integrity and sever malfunctions on multiple systems that have small to large numbers of users, including my own system on Oracle Cloud that has only me as a developer/user. Example of how it is failing: https://lemmy.ml/comment/616698
Redditors in general just aren't that into lemmy. Most redditors come here expecting to find a 1 for 1 replacement pre-warmed with millions of users and brimming with reddit culture.
Not having an algorithm to tell people what they want to see is a bigger impediment to attracting users than most people realise.
Additionally, I think mods are reluctant to direct users to any other community as they will give up lordship of their own fiefdom. Sorry, I acknowledge that I have probably an unfairly dim view of mods. I'm sure some are amazing, but certainly many are self-obsessed power trippers. They act in their own interests to preserve control rather than acting in the interest of the community.
I acknowledge that I have probably an unfairly dim view of mods. I’m sure some are amazing, but certainly many are self-obsessed power trippers. They act in their own interests to preserve control rather than acting in the interest of the community.
You're not alone. I absolutely detest Reddit mods for this. I only hope Lemmy doesn't turn out that way for what I consider to be egregious acts of injustice when I participate in good faith.
It's inevitable that some communities and some instances will be run this type of fief lord, but I suspect that the fediverse will support a more diverse range of cultures, just by virtue of there being more to choose from.
Don't think it's against the rules but people will be annoyed if you just throw Lemmy into every conversation. Just spread the word where it's motivated.
I believe a coordinated and directed action could work well. Obviously random spam would just annoy people but the vast majority still hasn‘t heard of Lemmy yet and if we manage to get to them at least once, would be ideal. We could target the largest subs that are open currently and either put up a comment on a hot post and use our manpower to upvote the comment to the top, or make new posts which are more likely to be removed.
I found out about lemmy from r/EDC where they mentioned in their B.O. post they would be at https://sopuli.xyz/c/edc
here's the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/145fxdb/reddit_is_killing_itself/
I found out about lemmy on Reddit by chance and they wouldn’t say it by name, told me “rhymes with many”. Sounded like saying it would get people kicked off. Which made me want it even more. 🤣
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There is r/lemmymigration and r/kbinmigration . Kbin got banned pretty quick, but seems reinstated now (at least I can see it on Stealth).
I don't want Lemmy to be an annoying spam thing on Reddit. If you have a community, by all means, diversify your platform or migrate where you wish. But don't advertised unsolicited on Reddit. Be chill.
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