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Hello everyone!

I'd like to first start by welcoming all the new users who have decided to chose sh.itjust.works as their lemmy home instance. It's wild to think that its only been 4 days since I've decided to spin up this instance and we are already nearing 1000 registered users.

During these last few days I've welcomed users from all parts of the world who collectively have created nearly 50 new communities on this instance alone.

Today I want to be transparent and share some of my thoughts, clarify some rules, share some concerns, answer some questions and most importantly introduce the two new instance admins that have been added over the last couple of days. So let's get started!

New Admins

  • @smorks@lemmy.ca - Some of you may recognized this name from the lemmy.ca instance. This is in fact the same person. I've asked smorks to help out on this instance and he accepted. As the userbase grows having someone whos living some of the similar issues will be bring great value to this instance. We are stronger together!
  • @donut@sh.itjust.works - donut is a personal friend, new to the fediverse but has agreed to give me a hand should things get out of control. He's a little quiet right now but he'll open up soon enough.

Rules

As you may have noticed, there aren't a whole lot of rules. This might need to change in the future but my goal as of right now is to keep it this way. Being respectful to all users no matter which instance they come from, part of the world they grew up in, personal believe or personal opinion is a absolute must. Our world is already in shambles, we don't need another place for all of us to fight against one another.

  • Be respectful
  • No bigotry
  • No Ads or Spamming
  • No pornography

You'll may have noticed that a new rule that has been added. No pornography. When pornography is introduced a whole bunch of legal implications need to be considered amongst other things like proper moderation, DMCA notices processes, etc. 4 days ago I would not have thought this to be a problem however I am not in a position to hire legal counsel and implement the elements required to not get this instance shutdown. So for now, no pornography. If the demand grows for this in the future and there is an opportunity to fill this gap I promise I will revisit this rule.

Donations

I've had a few users ask me whether they could start donating. I'll admit I was caught off guard when that happened, thinking of how thoughtful people can be. When I started this instance 4 days ago, I did it because I wanted people to have a home away from reddit, a place where they could come and share interesting topics, debate, discuss and connect.

I'm by no means rich but I have chosen a career that puts me in proximity of things needed to run an instance like this one. It also does help that I really like servers and while some people might really like the latest limited edition sneakers from X company or the latest iPhone/Android device, etc..., I really really like servers, datacenters and networking.

I don't have a plan for accepting donations today but seeing how this community is growing, I will need to consider it soon. You know what's more expensive than running a lemmy instances for thousands of users? a failed marriage.

There are some other options that might be available such as looking for sponsors but I do want to keep this instance about the users and not about corporate so I'll need to think hard about this one.

Whatever is decided I'll make another post with the details.

Concerns

Let's quickly talk about concerns. Most of you already know that many of the reddit mods are orchestrating a protest by blacking out many popular subreddits. Most of us anticipate a large spike in traffic towards our instances during the period of June 12 to 14th. If any of you were around during the Digg days, you may remember how the migration from digg to Reddit went. The early reddit days was filled with outages, performance issues, and frustration.

A lot of people people are looking for what might be the next reddit. We don't knows if lemmy will be it but a lot of people will surely be giving it a shot. During that time many instances including this one will likely deal with some growing pains.

From a resources perspective my biggest worry for this instance is related to the storage. I have CPUs, I have RAM but when it comes to storage, well its an element that has been growing much faster than I had anticipated. I will be keeping a close eye on this however want to wave a little yellow flag so that everyone is aware until I work out a solution.

Q&A

What communities allowed to be homed here?

  • As long as it follows the rules above and doesn't get any DMCA requests or jeopardize this instance from being shutdown or me in trouble. Go nuts!

What communities allowed to be federated over/subscribed to?

  • Same as the above and follow rules.

What am I allowed to link to in communities or text posts?

  • Same as the above and follow rules.

What kind of images am I allowed to upload to the integrated image host?

  • Storage is something that will likely become a problem in the foreseeable future. You all upload a lot! That being said, don't upload copyrighted materials or anything that will get me in trouble!
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[–] thirdorbital@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

As yet another former Redditor trying to make sense of the decentralized model, there is something very comforting knowing "sh.itjust.works". Thanks for doing this.

[–] 87785638@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank you very much for setting up this instance. I'm honored to be one of the first folks to join up. Let me know if there's anything we can do to help.

[–] downvotegilles@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree. I think we are going to create a really cool community here and I'm also happy to help.

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[–] sidetrak@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trying to get setup on the new platform. Is there mobile app that works with sh.itjust.works? Mastodon gives a 400 Bad Request

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm using Jerboa on Android right now and it's working fine. The equivalent iOS app would be Mlem. All taken from this page: https://join-lemmy.org/apps/

Also, https://sh.itjust.works/ does work pretty well in a mobile browser. App optional!

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are there instance-level cosmetic or functional differences that you lose by using a general Lemmy app?

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

Cosmetics, probably? If an instance had been customized for particular formatting on mobile, I don't think any of that would change the way that an app displays the site. I believe an app would read the raw data using an API and then format that data in whatever way made the most sense to the app dev. I'm not sure how much incentive there would be for an instance owner to spend a lot of effort formatting for mobile anyway. Personally I think it makes sense to let apps worry about formatting on mobile and let instances worry about formatting in desktop browsers. Although even then, I'm already overriding the desktop CSS to give my view of Lemmy a format closer to old.reddit: https://sh.itjust.works/post/53395

As for functionality, I think the answer would be "no" in the ideal case where everything is working correctly, but site-specific, app-specific, or site-app-interaction bugs might cause functionality issues. Those would hopefully be transient problems though, and not the regular state of affairs.

[–] Triazyze@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hey, so it's my first comment on Lemmy, and I picked this instance specifically because I liked the silly name I'm still figuring out how everything works, but it doesn't seem that hard to understand.

[–] what@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I found that once you get through the "how to find communities" part, it becomes a breeze to use

[–] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Problem I see here is for instance, I searched for Plex, and there's two communities on different servers. So that leads to questions like which one should I subscribe to? What if more keep popping up? Etc. I think this is going to be an issue with federation and everyone being able to operate in their own little universe. I think there should have been some kind of check where if you want to make your community public, it would have to be uniquely named across the federated universe (not including the server name).

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A unique name could work. I think the fragmentation is an intended feature, though. If it turns out the admins or members of lemmy.foo/c/stuff are buttholes you can easily switch to lemmy.baz/c/stuff.

As a Reddffugee I have the same challenge.

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[–] god@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

hello, what if porn, ok, what if porn but!! hosted elsewhere? dmca can't dmca if u not host of dmca'd thing. lmk if that sounds good to you

also, not to propose we create them, but hypothetically, what if someone hosted one of the good ol' "watch people die" communities? it's not porn, it's not particularly disrespectful if there's no insulting, but that'd be a very extreme way to test the limits. just wondering how you'd approach that. again, i have no interest in hosting or participating in that, but i'm curious about your PoV regarding it.

[–] daveuk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well I'm enjoying my time here, all seems very laid back and friendly, making me wish I'd jumped ship from Reddit before

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[–] TendieMaster69@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder if IPFS can be used to host uploads?

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You'd need people willing to host the data at scale. IPFS is just a transport. Need some kind of effort to get everyone to run the client and make pinning things easier. Without changes it'd explode all the current hosting options.

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There's this website that has an ipfs node built into it. https://www.dreamlink.cloud/

Imagine if an instance had that so no one had to install an ipfs client but can change a setting to use one if they wanted to

edit: that'd also make it so as long as people are on the site or have it open then the file would still be shared

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[–] TheBaldness@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm thinking of spinning up an instance for my community, and would love more info on how many users you have vs server capacity vs monthly cost.

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