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[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 213 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The old chef forged documents to take over the restaurant for himself, stealing from the protagonist, took advantage of the name Gustav to sell cheap food for profit.

Have you even watched the movie?

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 79 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I have but I banked on people's mandela effect memories to flip them towards the opinion.

[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Worked on me OP 👍 (I'm easily swayed and have no convictions)

[–] NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You should change that right away.

[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

You got it boss. Done 👍

[–] IronicDeadPan@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's a pretty successful Disney movie from the last 20 years, there was never a chance that would work.

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Tbf I've maybe seen it twice since it released so my memory on it is fuzzy and I was almost swayed.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Seems to have worked on many people in this thread

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

He didn't forge documents. He just didn't want to tell the protagonist that he was the heir. I believe the letter also told him not to tell. So, in a way, he was fulfilling the dead mother's wishes on that.

Gustav's was failing. Selling cheap food for profit might have been the only way to keep the business afloat. Yes, he tarnishes the name, but sometimes things have to be done, and he might have had to make that hard decision.

Mean and selfish? Yes. Evil? No

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Did you? He didn’t forge the documents.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 83 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

The villain in Ratatouille wanted to take over the restaurant, specifically for the name, so he could sell out with cheaply made frozen meals.

He was also a massive French asshole. 🤢

[–] TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He was also ~~a massive~~ French ~~asshole~~. 🤢

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ugh the Americans of Europe

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't insult Americans like that. Even we don't deserve that much hate.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

it's the perfect insult - there's literally no one who wouldn't be upset at this!

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

So he was just a capitalist

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Did any of you go on the ride at Epcot? That shit smells like bread! Lol

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That plague was like 600 years ago and rats still can’t get food service jobs in France?

[–] nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago

Here in the US they are our leaders

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wait you're telling me that movie had a plot and wasn't just about how bad I wanted that bad French bih to sit on my face?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago
[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sitting on her face tho... ouch

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Side profile like a lemon juicer but I dig it

[–] AlexJD@feddit.uk 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm wrong but I always took it as a metaphor for class. At one point Skinner literally calls linguine a rat. Also Skinner wanted to turn the restaurant into a frozen food empire...

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

It shows how the feudal system is still alive in privately owned companies.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is why i love that movie, there's no evil person but one who doesn't want the restaurant to run by someone who can't even cook nor run a business, and he doesn't want the restaurant to shut down by health inspection. The crew quitting over it signified the seriousness of this issue. Linguini almost ruined the restaurant if not for Remy.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

They kind of had to add that bit of him being a sellout who wants to ruin Gusteau's legacy.

[–] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

So he was evil?

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Also: Linguini did ruin the restaurant. Wasn't that kind of the point of the whole "Everyone can cook" idea?(i.e.: Haute-cuisine is not that important)

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

?(i.e.: Haute-cuisine is not that important)

Nah. Confit byaldi is ludicrously haute-cuisine, needs three-star levels of manual prep work. The tag line is "Not everyone can be a great cook -- but a great cook can come from anywhere". And so can a good recipe or idea, that wasn't ever new in French cuisine it's been riffing off peasant recipes for ages, Escoffier did plenty of that.

Good food isn't special in the sense that everyone so inclined, with enough obsession, can learn to combine aroma, to cook things to point, all that stuff, which is how excellent home cooks are made. What sets haute cuisine apart is the time and labour invested in every dish for increasingly diminishing returns.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But the restaurant closed. The movie ends with Remy in a bistro.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Because of the health inspector, yes. The restaurant critic, now disgraced for having talked up an "unsanitary" restaurant, is eating at the new place, happy as a clam.

The social status and renown that comes with haute cuisine indeed is unimportant, it's the food that's important.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The social status and renown that comes with haute cuisine

In my mind, that was haute cuisine. I never thought of that distinction between social status and all that diminishing returns stuff.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Social status and exclusivity plays into it in practice, for sure, in a right-out fetishistic sense: Like there's chefs who have onions chopped so fine, using a special technique (not the usual chef technique you see) that they melt in the sauce, very labour-intensive. Now, having the onions melt into the sauce is a nice and valid thing, however, why in the everloving fuck aren't you using a blender. Even if there's a difference, which all my experience tells me there isn't, it's going to have such a minimal return on investment it's utterly pointless but as an exercise in exclusivity.

Also I like my potato mash chunky but that's another topic.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Linguini did ruin the restaurant.

For that case we need to separate the two protagonists, Linguini and Remy. For the ending, i guess it's fair to say Linguini ruined the restaurant as he invited rats into his restaurant and to cook, but if we look at Remy as a separated entity, then the restaurant closed down due to Remy's and his family. The instance where Linguini almost ruined the restaurant is when a critic were served the same pot of soup he ruined, Remy saved the soup, thus saved the restaurant reputation.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago

Forgot the soup. Why do I always forget the soup!!??

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Best movie villains are assholes, but right.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Idk if you had intelligent talking people-rats like in the movie then being excluded from whole industries just because people think they're icky would actually be pretty bigoted.

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[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago

When the final boss is the sanitary inspector:

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