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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 141 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The dog caught the car & is desperately trying to escape the pull of the tire.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fucking disgusting how they talk about it. As if it's just another political stratagem that went a little awry. Fucking fuckers.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Because it was. It was a great wedge to capture religious types and people who were vaguely "in favor of not killing babies" but didn't comprehend the reality of abortion bans. Now that they actually killed roe and we're seeing the devastating impact, they can't tout it as a success. And since roe is already dead, they can't use it as a wedge to activate voters. So it goes away.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

Worst thing that can happen to conservatives is achieving their stated objectives. Not only do people realize how terrible it is, but they also have to go find another issue to scare people about.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As if it’s just another political stratagem that went a little awry.

that's all it ever was to them. they don't believe in anything other than their own power.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah they have to. Those who desire power or money above anything else are more likely to achieve it. Because of this almost all powerful politicians or billionaires are some type of sociopaths or very narrow minded "emotionally retarded" person. Otherwise they fall behind competing with other sociopaths.

I've never heard a name or seen a discussion for this phenomena. It seems to me to be the defining characteristic of those in power and the most important thing to understand in order to fix the systems of power.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828 https://www.amazon.com/48-Laws-Power-Robert-Greene/dp/0140280197

A lot of people are talking about it. Both from a clinical, adaptive standpoint and from a "how-to guide from experienced sociopaths to budding young sociopaths" perspective

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks that's very interesting, I'll have a look. I'm thinking more from a political and economic perspective of "democracy can never work as long as certain rules and mechanism are in place and not even known because never discussed". People keep talking about ideology and reform and stuff but maybe it can never work like this.

[–] JSocial@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Chris Ryan calls it Rich Asshole Syndrome.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What idiot is pro choice but doesn't already know that Republicans aren't?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservative women. They love to pretend they are pro life. Until their own ectopic pregnancy...

"But this is different." I have straight up heard that without any thought to the irony or interest in this one time exception.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Values that are loudly stated mean something more than if we just know someone holds certain values. If we flip the script for example, and consider a democrat who has generally been pro-choice, Vs a generally pro choice democrat who campaigns on making pro-choice law so that the roe Vs wade repeal cannot stand. I'd be much more likely to vote for the latter candidate, largely because this stance will put off people who are anti-abortion.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they got their base solidified with lying about the abortion bullshit but their base isn't enough to stay in power, so now they need to lie to the rest of us as well to try and take in as many vote as possible to stay in power, sweet power.

Can't piss off our base though, do be hush hush about it.

Fuck Republicans

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I wonder what other hugely unpopular positions they can poison themselves with. This is what minority rule looks like. The only way we stop this is by defeating Trump and reforming our democracy. Minorities should have enough power to protect themselves from oppression, but not so much that they can impose their views on the rest of the country. This is what's happening with the far right, which very much is a minority that's far out of step with mainstream American opinion on virtually everything.

It's not the only way. It's just the current way that allows everyone to take as little risk as possible.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they are lying and they will take this from you if given the opportunity.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

As always, when they tell you who they are, believe them. When they profess change, make them prove it.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really hate this "quietly deleting" / "quietly removing" trend in news headlines. Politico's don't "publicly announce" things they want to stop talking about, so it's always going to be "quietly". It's not like their teams have to go into some secret room/SCIFF to remove a paragraph of text on a web page...

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Seems quiet to me, in a metaphorical sense, if they delete something from PR page which they previously considered important enough to have as a campaign position, but without articulating a new position. They are obscuring their position.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's emphasizing that they would prefer people not find out about it, which is different to regular deleting.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think people delete things intending for them to be found out in general

Edit: I think the 'silent' part refers to them continuing the rethoric on twitter while deleting from the website

[–] CodeName 21 points 1 year ago

You can hate it if you want, I guess, but isn't that what they are doing? They know the polls are against them so they are flip flopping, to use Repub terms, but doing so in a cowardly fashion hoping no one will notice. But we've all noticed.

How would you frame these types of stories?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Well duh. It's an election year. People will actually go out and vote end of the year.

Hopefully.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago

We asked why

Hahaha.

Grabs their hand holding the anti-abortion sign, bashing then repeatedly in the face with it.

"Why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself?"

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

They are quiet quitting, in other words.

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