I often find myself defining function args with list[SomeClass] type and think "do I really care that it's a list? No, tuple or Generator is fine, too". I then tend to use Iterable[SomeClass] or Collection[SomeClass]. But when it comes to str, I really don't like that solution, because if you have this function:

def foo(bar: Collection[str]) -> None:
    pass

Then calling foo("hello") is fine, too, because "hello" is a collection of strings with length 1, which would not be fine if I just used list[str] in the first place. What would you do in a situation like this?

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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kids these days and their type hinting. Back in my day, all objects were ducks, and we liked it!

[–] wasabi@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

🦆

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m rusty on my type hints because I’ve been living in lua land lately, but from ye olde PEP 20

Explicit is better than implicit.

I’d combine them so the hint was something like Union[Collection[str], str]

[–] wasabi@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But what if you actually don't want str to be valid?

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, I had it backwards! I tried to mess with the hint and couldn’t find anything, maybe an assert?

from typing import Collection

def foo(bar: Collection[str]):
    assert not isinstance(bar, str)
    print(bar)

[–] m_f@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you're writing code that generic, why wouldn't you want str to be passed in? For example, Counter('hello') is perfectly valid and useful. OTOH, average_length('hello') would always be 1 and not be useful. OTOOH, maybe there's a valid reason for someone to do that. If I've got a list of items of various types and want to find the highest average length, I'd want to do max(map(average_length, items)) and not have that blow up just because there's a string in there that I know will have an average length of 1.

So this all depends on the specifics of the function you're writing at the time. If you're really sure that someone shouldn't be passing in a str, I'd probably raise a ValueError or a warning, but only if you're really sure. For the most part, I'd just use appropriate type hints and embrace the phrase "we're all consenting adults here".

[–] wasabi@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe something like passing in a list of patterns which should match some data, or a list of files/urls to download would be examples of where I would like to be generic, but taking in a string would be bad.

But the real solution be to convert it to foo(*args: str). But maybe if you take 2 Container[str] as input so you can't use *args. But no real world example comes to mind.

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure why you wouldn't just use packing to pass in a list of some objects that you need iterate over? Isn't it normally bad form to pass lists as arguments? I feel like I've read this somewhere but can't cite it

[–] wasabi@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's a good alternative for Collection[str] but not so much for Iterable[str] as you lose the lazyness of Generators.