high rise strip malls with conveyor belts. ala Jetsons. my robovac has a lot to learn
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@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars
In a 15 minute walk, in the Greater #Montreal , I have access to:
- Grocery Store
- (Miniature) Park
- Pharmacy
- Bus Stop
- Restaurant
- Post Office
- Bank
- Gas Station (why‽)
- (Fake) Shopping Mall
Groceries, (crappy) park, pharmacy, 2 bus stops, light rail stop serving three lines, at least 15 restaurants/food carts, a bank, a gas station (and a standalone convenience store), a hospital, a barber shop, and a few bars.
For the missing, good transit access fills in the gaps mostly:
- Day care: I don't have kids, so I don't know this one. There probably is day care in the area.
- Post office: I'm in kind of an awkward area for some amenities, and that includes post offices. Post drop boxes are plentiful, but an actual office takes some travel.
- Shopping mall: I don't frequent shopping malls, but there the light rail links up with some. Most are dying, but one is doing well. This is a shrug.
- Movie theater: A few minutes on the light rail, no problem.
- University: Portland State University is an urban university that I work at. I can access it by bus or light rail.
- Sports arena: There are at least two sizeable sports arenas, the Moda Center and Providence Park, on the MAX light rail. The light rail gets heavy use from Portlanders who don't want to deal with parking.
There are two exceptions:
- Good parks: The area actually has a lot of great parks, but there is a freeway blocking the nearest one. I can take transit, bike, or walk a while. That's doable, but it adds a lot of time if I just want to go lounge around in the outdoors.
- Elementary Schools: If I had kids, the area would be not great. It's a 25 minute walk, which is a bit much. That said, one of the "bike bus" programs would be perfect since the route isn't that long.
I feel a bit lucky looking at this. I live in the middle of the US and I have the first 9 listed within a 15 min walking distance. I live in a rather large town though too and I'm smack in the middle of that.
Everything but a movie theater, but when the street car extension is done, I'll have one on the streetcar line.
It is pretty glorious.
@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars I also don't get A Bar being so low. The bar is exactly the place I WANT people to be walking to instead of driving. Perhaps this is just a limitation of the polling method; these responses are mostly just gut reactions, not carefully considered positions.
40% do not think an elementary school should be within a 15 minute walk?!?!? (16 not sure 24 no)
That's wild.
I live within a 15-20 minute walk of all but three of these places: shopping mall, university, and sports arena. While a uni being closer would be neat, I am well out of college at this point in my life... the other two locations could simply not exist at all and I would be fine with that.
I actually have all of these within 15 minutes. I live North of Detroit
I have every one of those within 15 minutes by bike, except the university, which is about 30 minutes away by bike.
However, our cycling infrastructure does not give you the most convenient/fastest way to those destinations, so I can see how some would just drive.
A few changes, and this could be easily fixed.
I grew up in Collingwood, Melbourne and all of these things were within 20mins walk from my house.
I'm on the other side of Melbourne now (Footscray) and the only thing I'm not walking distance from is 'sports arena'..unless you count horse racing.
@fuck_cars @ajsadauskas all but a park, hospital and uni for me, though I’d get to them in about 30-45 mins and there are good buses to the latter two. Not a bad score really. I’m intrigued that the question in the poll starts out with reference to the 15-minute neighbourhood. Given the conspiracy theories I wonder if they’d get higher scores without an “ideological” scene setting and just asked the questions in isolation.
This is such a city-centric question, that I doubt many rural folks bothered to answer it.
46 years ago, we moved from London, where these things were available, to a rural Vermont town where none of them are except an elementary school (well, I can step outside and be in the woods; better than a park).
It's beautiful, quiet, and cheaper than city life.
When we drive, we combine visits to many of these amenities in one trip.
We don't regret our decision a bit.
@ASegar @ajsadauskas @fuck_cars The vast majority of Americans live in either a city, a small town where many of those things are accessible (both towns in Maine I used to live in had at least 10 of the things in walking distance), or sprawling suburbs where they’re surrounded by roads, parking & other people’s houses and not living off the land at all. Rural lifestyles can work (but depend on town centers where one trip can accomplish numerous errands), suburban ones aren’t sustainable or fun.
@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars Practically all of them (I'm in Europe of course) although the hospital and the sports arena would require a brisk walk, more like 20+min. But there are dozens of doctors nearby.
I have all of these within 15 minutes...
@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars All except a Uni.
Shopping Mall? Well, not really, but yes to local shopping strip (5 minutes), Fitzroy St, St Kilda and Clarendon St, South Melbourne (10 Minutes) both covering all shopping needs.
Brisk 20 minutes would get me to the closest CBD campus of a Uni.
And three minutes walk to two tram lines.
Kids walked or public transported to school.
I rode or public transported to work (or taxi and flew because it was in another state or country).
One car family - have never been really able to give up a car, entirely, but never needed two.
@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars No cinema @ 15 minutes and only a couple of medical centres (no full hospital), but everything else is right here.
@muiiio @ajsadauskas @fuck_cars no university, no sports arena but everything else less than 15 minutes,
oh and international airport in 1 h train ride
15 min walk.. In the US...?
@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars this just shows that despite countless tv shows that attest otherwise, Americans have no appreciate for the humble neighbourhood bar.