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Lemmy is in serious need of more devs (beehaw.org)

submitted 2 years ago by jherazob@beehaw.org to c/programming@beehaw.org

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After the (temporary) defederation announcement of earlier i checked the Lemmy repo to see if there was already a ticket on the federation limiting option like Mastodon's that people mentioned Lemmy doesn't yet have. Not only i didn't find it, i also saw that there's about 200+ open tickets of variable importance. Also saw that it's maintained mostly by the two main devs, the difference in commits between them and even the next contributors is vast. This is normal and in other circumstances it'd grow organically, but considering the huge influx of users lately, which will likely take months to slow down, they just don't have the same time to invest on this, and many things risk being neglected. I'm a sysadmin, haven't coded anything big in at least a decade and a half beyond small helper scripts in Bash or Python, and haven't ever touched Rust, so can't help there, but maybe some of you Rust aficionados can give some time to help essentially all of Lemmy. The same can be said of Kbin of course, although that's PHP, and there is exacerbated by it being just the single dev.

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[–] fastfinge@rblind.com 6 points 2 years ago (14 children)

How is PHP doing these days? It used to be hugely popular, but seems to have fallen into disregard in a lot of circles. I wonder if PHP being seen as a "easier" language than rust will attract more kbin developers?

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I'd rather work in rust, personally. I've heard newer PHP has a lot of things that are better than previously, but I've not worked with it personally.

[–] CoderKat@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But on the other hand, Rust is a highly desirably language whereas PHP has a historically bad rap. I don't think devs necessarily want easiest. They want whatever is most enjoyable to use. Tooling support also matters. Stuff like static typing, for example, makes unfamiliar code way easier to understand. I've contributed to a lot of unfamiliar servers and I've noticed that ones in languages like Go are a lot easier because the static typing means it's easier to read the code. In particular, I found servers written in Python hard to work with, and it's not for lack of experience with the language (I've been using Python for longer than Go).

How easy it is to run the code also matters. Has anyone tried that with Lemmy? I was gonna run a dev kbin instance to try and make some changes, but the amount of work it seemed to require just to run the server was more than I wanted to do at the time (I really just want as close as possible to a single command way to run the server locally to test my changes so I can verify they work). Ease of contributing is very important for me to actually bother to contribute.

[–] fastfinge@rblind.com 3 points 2 years ago

Lemmy has Ansible deploy scripts, and everything is dockerized. It's as easy as spinning up a machine, setting some config values, and running a playbook.

[–] slashzero@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I still use PHP extensively for a lot of my projects at work. It’s my favorite language.

I’ve been experimenting with rewriting one of my UI based reporting tools with Laravel (moving from slim/twig).

The fact kbin uses PHP piqued my interest there but I went with lemmy for my standalone instance anyway because I’d like to get familiar with Rust.

[–] stephenc@waveform.social 3 points 2 years ago

PHP used to be my main language. When they started adding more advanced type features it interested me. Then I got bitten by the strong typing bug and started teaching myself Haskell. I didn't end up getting very far, but now I strongly prefer strong and static typing.

I don't dislike PHP, even now. If I wanted to use an interpreted language for a web project, I'd probably pick PHP. I sure like it better than Python, Ruby, and JS. I just don't find myself wanting that kind of language anymore though.

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[–] theDuesentrieb@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

Thank you for this. Finally a good reason to learn more rust 👍

[–] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They wrote a web application in rust?

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[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Too bad it's on a Microsoft service. It would be a nice project to try and find little things to work on otherwise.

[–] stephenc@waveform.social 3 points 2 years ago

You're going to have a tough time finding projects to contribute too. A mind-boggling number of projects are hosted on GitHub. Probably a majority of all open-source code in existence.

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