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OceanGate's cofounder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050, and says we shouldn't stop pushing the limits of innovation::Guillermo Söhnleinm told Insider he has wanted to make humanity a multi-planet species since he was 11 years old, and that OceanGate was part of that ambition.

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[–] Ranessin@feddit.de 153 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] shinjiikarus@mylem.eu 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope the tickets are really expensive! And why wait until 2050?

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah. I mean for a couple million I have can build a rocker that is guaranteed to send billionaires to Venus. Just sign that waiver first please.

[–] AnAngryAlpaca@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 4 points 2 years ago

Of course. For such a noble goal I'll even take crypto!

[–] eee@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

let's offer musk first dibs for 20 billion dollars.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 60 points 2 years ago (3 children)

1000 of the richest people? Sure, go for it

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

This guy might actually be in our best interests!

[–] Techmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Sounds like a good start!

[–] Mikekm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Science and innovation can only move forward with heaps of dead bodies!

[–] Art3sian@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Err… Venus has one of the most hostile environments in the Solar System. A titanium probe can only survive there a few hours.

Dumb.

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 18 points 2 years ago

And flex tape and control it with Razer RGB controller.

[–] Hector_McG@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What could possibility go wrong with using a low compression strength material in a high pressure environment?

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[–] donnachaidh@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, it does say it would be a floating colony, so it would probably be up where the atmosphere is about as dense as Earth's, and above the sulfuric acid clouds, which is quite a bit more feasible than on the surface. That's something actual real scientists and engineers have looked at. Still not overly feasible though, and there surely won't be a 1000-person colony there by 2050. Even if NASA, SpaceX and the rest of the industry pivoted to Venus rather than Mars, I'd doubt that could happen. And I'd trust pretty much anyone more than this guy to pull it off.

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 4 points 2 years ago

Exactly. I don't see any flaw with his idea. I'm sure billionaires are litterally dying to get on that trip.

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[–] suprjami@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 2 years ago

Only if I can drive the spaceship with a Logitech wireless controller.

[–] Hector_McG@programming.dev 36 points 2 years ago

Is this some kind of insanity plea to get him off the hook for any negligence claims?

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

1000 billionaires, sounds like a great plan. They did so well last time.

Getting the flotation is actually not that difficult in terms of engineering since Venus has a crazy thick atmosphere. Not hard to float a balloon at an altitude of a few Earth atmospheres. Problem is your life is dependent on the reliability of the floatation system. It would take a lot of attention to fail safe design. That OceanGate organization would be like "the wrong stuff".

There's other engineering challenges in colonizing Venus such as solar radiation. Venus has no magnetosphere to protect against ion radiation from the Sun and being closer it's much more intense than Mars. Then you'd have to tether the balloon somehow, Venus has some strong vertical winds. That's going to be like thirty miles of cable to the scalding 900F surface. Venus has clouds of sulfuric acid so that's going to present a materials challenge. It's a tough sell, greatly easier to colonize Mars.

It's like when Elon started blowing smoke about colonizing the moons of Jupiter. If not already aware, Jupiter emits the most radiation of any solar body second only to the Sun. The moons around Jupiter are seriously toxic to human life. They can't even get a probe to last more than a year around Jupiter due to radiation exposure, let alone a manned spacecraft.

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

Soo I know I'm not in the slightest the target audience for his shit. But I can say there's no way in hell I would ever trust a vessel from that company going forward.

[–] Nomad 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lets name that deathtrap titan too...

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 5 points 2 years ago

Event horizon would be a good name.

[–] blastofffox@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

[*] implosion
[] explosion

[–] NatoBoram@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago
  • [x] implosion
  • [ ] explosion
[–] SubsAndDubs@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This man can't even make a safe submarine

[–] AnAngryAlpaca@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Spaceships are probably easier to build. No external pressure in space, no regulations for passenger space ships yet... /s

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The irony is that it is probably true. Think about it. The atmosphere is one atmosphere of pressure, obviously. Space is zero. Under the ocean at the Titanic it is 400.

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[–] yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, please go ahead.

I will even open a bottle of sparkling wine for the occasion!

Edit: btw, does anybody else have Nandor The Relentless‘ voice in their head whenever somebody is named Guillermo?

[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

I do now lmao.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

VenusGate: Uh, spaceguard? We lost contact with the Venus colony several weeks ago. They've got 2 months of air so they might still be alive. Though we did learn from the last time and didn't bolt the windows shut in case they made it back to Earth on their own and needed to get out. The CEO did complain about the smell of farts increasing and the last communication said they were able to get a few open to air out the place, so we know they work.

NASA: Spaceguard isn't a thing. Also the bolts weren't the problem last time, it was the complete structural failure. Opening some windows probably allowed the pressure to equalize, which caused the vessel to drop into the "everything melts" zone. They are dead.

VenusGate: So you won't be sending anyone out to look for them?

NASA: No.

[–] Starzil@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn’t that the company that made that crappy sub that imploded?? This man crazy thinking we would trust him with space travel!

[–] Alvinum@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He does not want us to trust him with space travel. He wants us to trust him with our money.

[–] Starzil@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Agreed! A better way to put it.

[–] GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago

that timeline is laughable...

26 years sounds like a long time... but time enough to set up a floating colony on venus??? yea no...

[–] Kyoyeou@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So which social media platform will he buy

[–] cooopsspace 3 points 2 years ago

Freedumb of speech huduuuuur

[–] JTode@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This one requires the laughing Mexican guy with the missing teeth. Anyone got that gif in a barrel?

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[–] spiderman@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

so, will they use the same type of controller for this mission or update it?

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Well, budget's tight given recent events, all they can afford is the MadCatz now.

[–] asphaltkooky@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

If only all billionaires would take care of themselves like this...

[–] Spellblade@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Oh boy here we go again! Be sure to make the ticket price like 10 million dollars, please.

[–] Raisin8659@monyet.cc 8 points 2 years ago

For sustainable environment, the ships, habitats, and all applicable equipment will be made with safe, state-of-the-art recyclable plastics.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago
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[–] Outsider9042@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Easier to work with 0atm vs several thousand.

[–] skillissuer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

On Venus you also have several hundred, but this time it's hot sulfuric acid

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

If they're volunteers that are aware of the risks then go for it.

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