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Vice is basically dead — Thousands of stories written over the past two decades could soon be deleted without any warning::CEO Bruce Dixon told staffers that Vice Media will lay off hundreds of employees and stop publishing stories on the site.

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[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 98 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Vice did a lot of very good, and generally in-moderate-depth reporting over the years. Hope an overabundance of people scrape that shit while we still have an opportunity. Once its hosted somewhere safe, you could probably even dump access to it somewhere like ... the fediverse.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surely most of it is already on the Internet archive?

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very likely. Those are not secure in the long-run either though, hence the need for an overabundance. No single online service should be genuinely fully trusted. You need a lot of duplication for any kind of real future-proofing.

[–] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know much about the internet archive's inner workings. But rather recently a huge collection of old 70s-00s tokusatsu shows and movies got deleted along with the uploader. Some remain on piracy sites, but a lot probably live now on some old torrents. We really need an archive of the internet archive.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

A while back they had a piece of tech where you could self host a backup of a small part of their dataset, and it stored it in the clear on your computer so you were free to peruse whatever subset of the data you got allocated

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The Internet Archive's time is very limited. People are uploading full-length copyrighted movies. Even Disney movies. They aren't getting deleted. They are going to be sued into oblivion, taking their whole web archive with them.

More personally to me since I've made a lot of use of it, they would also take the Prelinger Archives with them. The Prelinger Archives is a massive noncommercial online archive of industrial, educational, commercial and other types of short films not considered to be pure entertainment from the beginnings of the silent era up even into the 1980s.

Much of it has been backed up on YouTube, so it will not disappear entirely, but then the content will be in the hands of Google, not in the hands of the people.

The Internet Archive is making a huge mistake by not moderating their content and we will all pay for it.

[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But Dixon wrote, rather cryptically, that remaining employees will put “more emphasis on our social channels as we accelerate our discussion with partners to take our content to where it will be viewed most broadly.”

In other words, the in depth reporting and niche shows aren't making enough money, so we're going to dump all that shit and jump on the reality TV bandwagon.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

they'll just fire everyone and licence their stuff for AI training

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I remember when they were a bunch of dicks. But, yeah, there was some really good journalism that got done - somehow - amongst all that.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240111063111/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/06/inside-vice-media-shane-smith.html

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How nice. A site founded by a racist who once stuck a dildo up his ass live on streaming video as a "joke" is going to shove a dildo up the ass of all of its employees.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you have repeated the same point as the parent commenter, but removed the quotation marks to make it seem like they didn't do that, so to create for yourself an opportunity to say it again

[–] gaifux@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Incredibly sleuthy analysis my dude

[–] BravoVictor@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago

https://pca.st/episode/26653693-fa5b-4d82-a7c2-683d1b29240d

Vice had a tech podcast called ‘Cyber’ and they dropped a final episode yesterday. It’s just a bunch of the staff bewildered and mourning the fall of Vice. Pretty interesting.

More amusing was that they did it ‘rogue’. Much of their CDN was inoperable, except for the podcast deliver infrastructure.

[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

That's sad. They did some really good things over the years.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gaifux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'd rather start saving my trash, thanks

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How was Vice not profitable with that much output?