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[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The body tends to do that when you beat the shit out of it over the course of days.

Blood clots at the damage point, more beatings break up the clot, platelets gonna platelet and boom, thrombosis.

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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Being unjustly confined in a prison is still a direct contributing cause to a stroke or pulmonary embolism. There's a reason they still make folks in solitary in the US do "yard time."

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

lol, I think you mean that there’s a reason they’re supposed to give them yard time

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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Naturally or with help from the outside?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Naturally. If you oppose putin, the natural result is death.

/s

[–] GrumpigPoopBalls@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Did they get his sperm in time?

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[–] BennyHill500@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't wait for western intelligence officials, who were always a 100% reliable source to libs and chuds when saying Russia bad, to suddenly be wrong about something in their minds

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CIA has the heart attack gun. Russia has the blood clot gun

[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A blood clot doesn't mean there is no foul play. There are plenty of poisons that cause clotting: https://go.drugbank.com/categories/DBCAT000113 - including some that are snake venom components.

It could also be a consequence of prolonged confinement without much movement. It could also be an eventual consequence of the 2020 poisoning (there is no evidence that Novichok specifically or mild poisoning with other acetylcholinesterase inhibitors causes clots; however, severe poisoning causes respiratory paralysis which causes hypoxia, and that can cause platelet and vascular dysfunction/damage that increases the risk of thrombosis. Not many people ever have been poisoned with Novichok and survived, so the exact sequelae are uncertain).

Now, there is a question of whether the FSB would want to do a subtle execution or an ambiguous one. They did attempt an obvious one in 2020, given it involved an agent which is clearly associated with the Russian government (although perhaps if he hadn't made it overseas, that would have never come out). Since then, perhaps Putin and the FSB have less incentive to be brazen. If they didn't want to send a message, they could have just kept Navalny alive. But maybe ambiguous was a compromise they wanted - it keeps would-be dissidents fearful, but provides the cover of plausible deniability for those who would criticise the killing of a political opponent.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Clots can also be caused by injuries. I'm not saying he was beaten or anything but I would be surprised if he wasn't at some point, probably repeatedly, and possibly recently.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is this news being given by Ukraine's intelligence chief? I would assume we'd get it from another vector.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because if anyone has incentive to say he was assassinated, it's Ukraine, so we can be pretty sure they're telling the truth.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

A blood clot from earlier trauma is a possibility. These prisons are known for their brutal regimes, especially against political dissidents.

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