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Counties are blocking wind and solar across the US::Local governments across the U.S. are blocking new clean energy plants. See the best locations for wind and solar power, and where it's being stopped.

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[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 106 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The inability to install solar panels on my home is enshrined in my HOA and is extremely unlikely to be overturned by our members. We should be passing laws making these types of restrictions illegal

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a story on Reddit about someone who snuck an extension cable onto the HOA president's property and had it running something like an air conditioner full blast nonstop for months. They later said something to the effect of "oh yes, prices are going up but my friend who lives in the other city has solar and he's fine". This apparently convinced the person to change the bylaws.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wait... Aren't you guys supposed to be the free-est nation on earth or something?

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're a country founded by slave owners who wrote things like "all men are created equal"

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago

*Some exclusions may apply

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

And they meant men too, not women.

But really they meant White Male Landowners with money.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

HOAs were literally created to make sure that black people couldn't buy homes. These covenants put legal blocks on the deed for eternity to keep it from happening. It didn't take long for white people to buy a house and then turn around and sell it to a black family. The entire thing crashed. What we are left with are small Karens and Chads trying to control the people around them.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Minorities in general. Some of the first HOAs excluded Blacks, Jews, Asians, etc in literal writing. It took a SCOTUS case to overturn.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

They are free to die without healthcare

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It was an Irishman that wrote "free to screw you before you screw me".

[–] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Colorado House Bill 21-1229 is law here now, maybe your state can pass a bill like it too?

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what- the HOA folks are worried they'd see your PV panels instead of a shingled roof for the .4 seconds they see it at all while they're parking in thier driveways?

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

HOA should be requiring solar instead of banning it.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I disagree. That’s a huge cost to force on people.

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[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Parking in the driveway is also banned in many HOAs.

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[–] Railison@aussie.zone 18 points 1 year ago

Where I’m from, laws were changed so communities like this can’t block lot modifications that improve a lot’s sustainability performance (e.g. rooftop solar, rainwater harvesting, etc.). Not that anyone here would block rooftop solar, it’s wildly popular.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should be passing laws making ~~these types of restrictions~~ HOAs illegal

FTFY

America, home of the not free to do what you like with your own house.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I suspect that more states will follow WA and CA and start saying that counties and cities no longer can block things like denser housing, extra units on a lot, or solar.

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Yes. And some states (e.g. Washington) already have.

The governing documents may not prohibit the installation of a solar energy panel by an owner or resident on the owner's or resident's property [...]

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Would that be Republican controlled counties?

[–] guywithoutaname@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

With VT and CT on the list, it seems like a NIMBY issue.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

I live in uber-blue NW Oregon and even my county banned solar farms because they claim it's wasting our fertile soil that can be used for factory farming instead. The county is controlled by douchy Republicans though

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[–] Boop2133@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We need more coal mines the children yearn for the mines

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I'm not sure if it wasn't clear, but THE PLANET IS DYING.

[–] neumast@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The planet itself will survive this easily, the inhabitants on the other hand...

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yep, this is what I tell people....the planet will recover just fine...but just after it's killed pretty much everything off and started over.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah the planet will be just fine. Humans (and other living things) though will truly be fucked.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Some living things will make it through the extinction event and the next sentient species will fuck it all up again in a billion years or so.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

Assuming they can even get to our level, we already extracted the easily reachable fossil fuels and the circumstances that originally created them (lots of trees dying and not being broken down by fungi) probably won't ever reoccur.

Maybe something will turn all the plastic we're making into a new fossil fuel, but more likely any civilization that comes after us will be stuck in the bronze/iron age.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe some of these things (at least rooftop solar, but maybe not wind turbines) ought to be guaranteed by right on a Federal basis, kind of like how the FTC prevents local governments from stopping people from putting up antennas.

[–] SuperSynthia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The biggest barrier to consumer renewable energy is price (and it has gone down considerably already.) Big projects ensures more development, which can lead to even lower prices.

With the state of the US power grid, we need more big renewable projects everywhere. Better subsidies on home renewables to take stress off the grid. The sooner the better !

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

From the article it looks to be only "utility-scale" projects that are blocked, I assume that doesn't include roof solar.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

We are really fucking bad at this

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know what they mean, but the headline makes it sound like they're building a big-ass dome across the US, to block out the sun and wind entirely.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Some of these guys believe the earth is literally under a dome already. They also seem to think that wind farms are a global conspiracy to turn them gay or something.

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Can we do that over the parts of the country still using coal?

[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Their interactive map says mostly the Midwest.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The Simpsons already did this bit.

[–] Shortbus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I live in SE NC. Duke energy has incentives for solar and they are about to pay for the installation of my Tesla charger in my garage.... It's not all bad I guess..

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