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[–] PanArab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Is AJA a credible group? Or just some person trying to sound official?

No worse than the ADL for sure.

[–] mcvikingqueef@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

There are Jewish Muslims that live in Palestine. Would it not be antisemitic of Israel to a attack an area that houses Jews of any sect and faith?

[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Do you mean Jewish arabs? or Semitic Muslims maybe. Technically Semitic is a language group which includes arabic but like indo-european it can also refer to the people who originally used the dialect... bigotry fails at logic.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Judaism is a religion, not a race. Plenty of people of the race commonly associated with Judsism who aren't Jews. Like your average Palestinian.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago

Palestinians are semites. Judaism isn't a race, it's a religion.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (21 children)
[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This should be pointed more often, if ideology of a group is including culling other groups then you shouldn't be surprised they actually start doing it someday, this actually also points at many other groups out there and people tend to forget about it till it's too late

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Thanks. I am willing to risk religious people of all stripes to downvote me for saying it, not that points matter.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This comment is actually pretty bigoted. I've heard literal Nazis talk the exact same way about Muslims and their religious texts.

Just because something was written in a religious book a thousand years ago doesn't mean it is automatically endorsed by the entire population.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hey, I agree with you my comment was a bit bigoted. This comment was half-written in the context of being a Lemmy Shitpost, but it has spawned a chain of genuine discussion.

The important thing is to separate the hate for what Israel is doing from Jewish people in general. (Same with Palestinians, Hamas and Islam)

Anti-Semites and Nazis, Islamic fundamentalists, the Israeli government, the Australian Jewish Association all try to fuse the two together to justify violence.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's part of the Bible, too, so it's also anti-Christian!

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Absolutely correct.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The vast majority of Jews do not accept what ancient iron age text happen to say as if they were modern moral texts and recognize their ancient flaws. Because most Jews aren't Orthodox, who are the only ones who believe all that shit.

The rabbi at the temple when I was growing up was a lesbian. The rabbi at the temple there now (coincidentally) is a gay man. Considering homosexuality is condemned in the torah and they are still rabbis, that should tell you something.

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm guessing the claim is that saying "Israel is killing children" present a "false" narrative (presumably, false to them). Like you can imagine someone saying "Stop this man from killing puppies!" and it makes him look pretty bad even if he's not a puppy killer.

What's unfortunate is that instead of responding to "false" narratives by pointing out the falsehoods ("Actually all those bombed children's hospitals were faked!" /s), instead this person just attacks the character of the person saying it. It's basically name-calling or tone policing at best. I'm guessing because there's no good argument in support of Netanyahu's actions. Only zealots would support him.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are killing children, it's not a false narrative, it's what's happening. Palestine has a very young population, those casualties contain a very large percentage of underage people. They don't have to bomb a children's hospital to kill children.

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