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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 144 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Reminder that poor Gary Bowser was jailed for a year and owes 30% of his income to Nintendo for the rest of his life. He uses a wheelchair and has two kids.

It would be morally wrong to pirate all future Nintendo titles and pay the cover price to Gary's gofundme. Please don't do that.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Please don't conflate an open effort to own your own hardware and data with a closed effort to literally sell access to copyrighted content under the table, and try to launder the profits and commit fraud. Yuzu and Bowser are not the same.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does 30% of the gofundme go to nintendo?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago

Google says yes

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

fuck Nintendo, I'll never support them or buy anything related to them ever again.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 53 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I feel like the people saying this now aren't going to follow through and will buy future Nintendo products. If this behavior was a deal breaker for you then you would already be boycotting Nintendo.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, given that the last game I officially bought by Nintendo was Metroid Prime Dread (because I really really want that franchise to regain its former glory, same with F-Zero) and that also after a year or so of not buying anything new. Yeah I was kinda in a soft boycott already.

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last thing i bought was BoTW. Guess whos playing ToTK on their linux pc.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So in other words you were already boycotting them, and nothing has changed due to this lawsuit.

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We'll now im actively pirating. I haven't had much time for their IP before.

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[–] zwerdlds@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this... surprising behavior on Nintendo's part?

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, and it's still disgusting. They are fricking bullies.

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[–] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The publicity inspired me to install it, so great job Nintendo.

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[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 year ago

Fuck Nintendo :)

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 year ago

It is always morally correct to pirate nintendo products.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Where does a FOSS project find $2.4M? They weren't selling anything were they? They can't really have that big of a war chest can they?

[–] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't have it. It's a limited liability company so in this way they will pay only the sum of their assets (=bankruptcy) which is lower than legal expenses against a Goliath and definitely lower than 2.4 million. I'm guessing 1000x lower than the settled amount or they wouldn't have reason to found the LLC in first place or to settle this easy and this fast

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[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My understanding is they've been making 30k a month from their Patreon.

Which is also the main reason they were vulnerable to a lawsuit, because they've been profiting off of the emulator (which why legal by itself, is only popular enough to make money due to piracy).

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$2.4M is 8 years' worth in that case, assuming they were making that much the entire time. And of course a lot of that money was probably for the devs to afford basic living expenses.

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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 year ago

Holy shit this thing smells so bad. The announcement reads like "Nintendo's legal team wrote this in exchange for 1 mill smaller settlement"

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Emulator devs should rly do their best to be anonymous

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This shouldn't need to be the case; emulation is legal and has been tried by the courts in several jurisdictions.

Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use, so the legality of emulation isn't really "enough" in the face of even rudimentary protections.

The nice thing about loving on a global society is that this can still be legally pursued elsewhere and we can all benefit. (Or coordinated/shared on the dark web, which can be untraceable even for those living in justifications where it might be illegal.)

In this case, they'll be fine. They made a LLC and didn't take any personal liability in the settlement. They can just declare bankruptcy and fold.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 15 points 1 year ago

Emulation may be legal on paper, but in the end, we are rarely ever a match for such massive corporations, and a legal system that lets them get away with outspending you on legal fees.

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[–] mudle@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

As of right now, both Citra and Yuzu are available via Flathub!!! Get them now if you don't have it!!!

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do I turn off Yuzu's auto-update? I don't want my computer to connect to a website that Nintendo now owns every time I boot up the emulator.

[–] mudle@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should be fine. Yuzu checks the Github repo for updates which is now down. If you're still worried you could download it via Flathub and disable network access via Flatseal or terminal.

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[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I have the opposite question. How do I make sure that Nintendo knows every time I run yuzu?

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[–] d_k_bo@feddit.de 37 points 1 year ago

Fuck Nintendo. All my homies hate Nintendo.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 29 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Reminder that paying Nintendo money is morally wrong and should be avoided when possible. Buy the consoles, sure, but pirate if you have to play the games.

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's the other way around imo. I don't want to pay hundreds of euros for a console (which is still just a computer) that is slower than my phone just because Nintendo puts artificial restrictions on what hardware the software they make can run on. I already have a PC that could run those games perfectly fine. Or rather, it can run those games perfectly fine, way better than a Switch actually. Unfortunately, the only way for me to play those games on my PC, without having to buy a console I don't need, is to pirate them.

So basically, I can either pirate the games for free to play them on my PC or I pay for a console for no other reason but to get the privilege of being able to pay for the games.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

I agree to never give Nintendo my money again, I hope they also shut down someday.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

They're shutting down the website too :( I really liked the in depth update logs. Yuzu (the website, emulator, android app) felt so extraordinarily polished for an emulator too. Shame Nintendo

[–] passepartout@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

That escalated quickly.

[–] 0x0@social.rocketsfall.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They must know they fucked up somewhere and decided to go this route rather than get exposed for potential shenanigans. From reading comments in other communities I was surprised to see a lot of people expected this outcome, although nobody was particularly specific about why (maybe someone here can give some insight.) For the record I've been on team "Fuck Nintendo" after the Gamecube, but I'd take the fact that other emulators haven't been targeted as possible hint that Nintendo got wind of something wacky going on. Who knows, maybe they're next?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They ran a LLC company and earned a quite substantial amount of money with Yuzu. I also suspect that they don't actually plan to pay much of this fine and just let the LLC go bankrupt.

[–] 0x0@social.rocketsfall.net 8 points 1 year ago

Financially the right move. If what I read was correct, it would take approx. 8 years of steady Patreon income to get to the $2.4M figure anyway.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happened to the lawsuit that said that emulation is legal?

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[–] Salmarez@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Fuck it up to heaven's way. Dietendo

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