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Appimages totally suck, because many developers think they were a real packaging format and support them exclusively.

Their use case is tiny, and in 99% of cases Flatpak is just better.

I could not find a single post or article about all the problems they have, so I wrote this.

This is not about shaming open source contributors. But Appimages are obviously broken, pretty badly maintained, while organizations/companies like Balena, Nextcloud etc. don't seem to get that.

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[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Appimages are awesome for the regular user. Single file, just double click to run anywhere. Snap and Flatpak should die a quick death and all the work should be used to improve Appimages. There's no other concept for the end user as simple and clear as this.

[–] Yubishi@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

They mimic the apple application format to some degree and it is a great way to distribute. The real detriment is sandboxing but with more support this could be included.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I double clicked, the program didn't run because it's missing some dependencies

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[–] rotopenguin 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It would be nice if there was a way to bundle up a flatpak that was at risk of disappearing

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

flatpak?

Frying pan, meet fire.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

AppImages can be signed. Flat pak is the lesser option for security

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Explained in a other comment how a pain it is to verify such a signature.

Is that stored in the appimage file?

I find it funny how flatpak neglectors always spell it wrong

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does flatpack finally let me choose an alternative to ~/.var?

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Needed to have zulip to talk about a bug, the AUR package was a pain to debug, the appimage in ~/.local/bin just works™.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Why do I hear the argument about no .desktop entries in every thread like this? Creating a .desktop file is a requirement for the appimage creation tools to work, and appimaged installs it in the system menu immediately. It's seamless.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago

Feather Wallet is a great example of AppImages done right

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Flatpak is bloated monster that has no idea how much it has to download to update. I'll take AppImage over flatpak if I can.

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[–] spacebanana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Static binaries, or dynamic binaries whose project has documentation on what dependencies they need, are better than appimages. This is because appimages are a container with the actual files inside, creating a layer of abstraction, and appimages require libfuse to work.

Imagine the case in NixOS, where dynamically-linked binaries don't work out of the box. You can patch or package these binaries, or just quickly use something like steam-run to emulate traditional Linux bin and lib paths, it works. With appimages, it won't work unless you already have libfuse in your system, so you have to extract the appimage first.

Still, flatpaks as the only official alternative isn't great for many reasons, and CLI/TUI programs are out of the equation. What is better is the devs distributing unpackaged binaries, jars, etc, and optionally flatpaks. Either way, Nix's repository is huge so I don't usually feel the need to run anything that isn't a nix package.

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