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The older I get, the more Carlin's perspective rings true for me. (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world to c/funny@lemmy.ml

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[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Carlin has a lot of bangers, but this isn't one of them and doesn't sound like something he would say. It completely trivializes the struggle of the lower class.

[+] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You're incorrect. He said it in interviews constantly, and in one of his books (which he narrated the audio book for so he said it there too).

“Don't confuse me with those who cling to hope. I enjoy describing how things are, I have no interest in how they 'ought to be.' And I certainly have no interest in fixing them. I sincerely believe that if you think there's a solution, you're part of the problem. My motto: Fuck Hope!”

-George Carlin, excerpt from his book Brain Droppings

[–] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was a man who was profoundly disappointed in his fellow man, which I understand, but he was wrong on this one.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How can you look at our history and our present, and not be profoundly disappointed/disillusioned with humanity?

[–] KillingAndKindess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

Cause I can... Like literally, because i have the ability, the technology, and (somehow) the education, to look at anything at all that happened before the oldest person alive's birthday....

Its not a fucking endless awesome orgy, but damnit I like not having to huddle with all you weirdos just for warmth in some damp cave.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Because we could have already turned Earth into a nuclear wasteland several times over. And we didn't. So if you think this is the worst timeline, think again

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and that's the problem with quoting part of what someone says.

Without the context of the entire statement, it looks different than with the entirety. It switches from a statement about his own cynicism and outlook are, with the out of context part being a explanation of detail behind "fuck hope" to just a blanket statement that anyone with hope is the problem.

It's also important to realize that brain droppings is not a serious screed. The guy was a comedian first, and very often wrapped his beliefs in exaggerations to emphasize the absurd in life. He even explained exactly that during his routine about rape jokes. It's all about the exaggeration, the twisting of things to turn an idea on its head.

Taking the entire quote as 100% serious is as much a mistake as only quoting part of it.

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reads like something a boomer would say. With a mindset like this you're definitely part of the problem.

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

So if you're ignorant, you're not causing the problem?

What does this even mean?

Also you you.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

does heat death of the universe count as a solution?

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fortunately, mercifully, the very concepts of problems and solutions will have faded into oblivion long before then.

Humans cause ourselves a lot of misery in our never ending quest to label every conceivable human impulse as right and wrong. I get stuff like murder, but right down to what other people say and value.

[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You you?

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I adore Carlin, and have even granted him sainthood in my own fake religion.

That being said: He was incredibly privileged in almost every way. It's easy to have this mindset when you're watching the game from your own private box.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Firstly, Carlin had a pretty dark landing, and was also conveniently dead by the time trump farted in the zeitgeist. So yeah he was wrong on this one.

Secondly, is that an AI picture? It doesn’t really look like him. It looks like a look-alike.