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What good is an OS if no one uses it 🤨. TempleOS is cool, but I bet you won't find 100 people on earth that use it as a daily driver.

Really? What are the distro's firmware files then? firmware-intel, firmware-amd, firmware-qualcom... what are those?

OK, I admit, I was looking into this a few years ago, so I don't have the lastest info on this. Back then, drivers were the biggest problem. I had an Asus ZenFone 3 Max back then and I really wanted to try and run LineageOS on it. Turns out, everything works 🥳, except for RIL 😒. I could live without bluetooth or IR, that's fine, but... this is a phone, it's primary purpose is to make phone calls, not be a tablet. Hell, I could buy a $50 one if I really wanted a tablet.

My point is, there will always be obsticles and ways to overcome them. The only question is, is it worth my time and effort. A thing like ReVanced that takes 2 minutes to install, yeah, sure. But me doing backflips once every 2 or 3 months to overcome paying for things, nah, that's just not worth it.

I stand behind this, there is no point in forking Android, you gain nothing. Simple apps that don't need anything to run, yeah, those will run just fine, but as you mentioned, anything that involves data transfer to google services will be a hard to swallow pill. It's just not worth it IMO. Better invest your time in a new platform. Sure it's gonna be hard for it to take off, but hey, at least you're not investing your time in a lost battle.

That is true, yes, I do agree.

But, on the other hand Windows is not open source as well and I have to use it for work or an oddball proogram here and there that just doesn't run on Wine.

Hell, people also use a lot of closed source code in their Linux installs as well. Let's strat with drivers and firmware binary blobs, printer drivers (binary blobs as well, depends on manufacturer) and end with NLE software like DaVinci Resolve... we use binary blobs all the time, including our phones, and even though none of us asked for that, but instead was shoved down our throat in order to be able to live in a modern society, no one seems to complain about that... but, when a random stranger suggest using something, oh no, that thing most definitely is something malicious 😒.

Run it in a sandbox for a while, see if it calls home. If it does try to call, block it with a firewall, is that so hard 😒... though I've never seen it even try to call home or do something malicious, and as I said, I've been using it for years. Also, people use a lot of their products, I have yet to see one complaint regarding any of their products doing something malcious.

That may be true, but I'm sure the userbase is next to none.

That was never mentioned, it just said it had Google App compatiblity... and I didn't look any further to be honest.

In my original reply, that's why I said "almost no one". Because, yes, some people might try and untangle that spaghetti code, riddled with tons of Google native things (there's also LineageOS), but in reality, even if someone does it, no one is gonna use it. Sure, your oddball dev or Linux user, here and there, but mass adoption, no way. Main problem, as with every Android fork - drivers.

I really see no point actually forking Android if you can't get a decent set of drivers that work, regardless if they're closed or open source (though open source would be nice).

OK, I tried loading the library on Audacious x86, no dice 😔...

ERROR ../src/libaudcore/plugin-load.cc:70 [plugin_load]: /usr/lib32/audacious/Input/libmp3PRO.so could not be loaded: /usr/lib32/audacious/Input/libmp3PRO.so: undefined symbol: xmms_cfg_open_file

It's just way too old, support for XMMS and everything GTK+ related was dropped a loooong time ago 😔. Maybe with some sort of a wrapper... IDK... maybe it could work... have no idea where to start though...

Oh well, back to using Winamp 5.24 with Wine I guess 🤷‍♀️.

GrapheneOS is a privacy and security focused mobile OS with Android app compatibility...

That's not the same as an ungoogled fork of Android, is it.

I seriosly think that a psychologist or a therapist would be one of the few jobs that will never get replaced by AI... or at least not in the near future (10 years or so).

Though the question is valid, I would agree.

Lol 😂, hasn't happened yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did 😂.

Yeah, yeah, the other person explained it as well 🤦... just didn't put 2 and 2 together.

Oh, yeah 🤦...

I'm like a neon light sometimes, take me a while to light up.