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Yesterday, RedHat announced another massive shift that impacts all rebuilds and forks of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Going forward Red Hat will now only be releasing the source code for RHEL RPMs behind their customer portal. Since all RHEL clones rely on the sources being published, this is causing disruption for the entire Red Hat ecosystem, once again. A quick summary: how we get RPM sources is being forced to change.

Late last week one of our build SIG members noticed that some updates for Red Hat 8 hadn’t been published on git.centos.org like they were supposed to be. They assumed it was a bug and opened a report appropriately, but as the days went on with no resolution, we knew something was up. This morning we got our answer:

Red Hat has decided to continue to use the Customer Portal to share source code with our partners and customers, while treating CentOS Stream as the venue for collaboration with the community.

This change means that we, as builders of a RHEL clone, will now be responsible for following the licensing and agreements that are in place around Red Hat’s interfaces, in addition to following the licenses included in the software sources. Unfortunately the way we understand it today, Red Hat’s user interface agreements indicate that re-publishing sources acquired through the customer portal would be a violation of those agreements. That means we need a new solution.

The short- and long-term solutions to this change are something we will be discussing over the coming weeks. We spent much of our time today diving deep to ensure we understood the depth of the problem, and discussing our potential options.

In the short term, we will be working with other members of the RHEL ecosystem to ensure that we continue to deliver security updates with the speed and stability that we have become known for.

In the long-term, we’ll be working with those same partners and with our community to identify the best path forward for AlmaLinux as part of the enterprise linux ecosystem.

If you have any questions, you know how to find us (in chat or on discourse). Please also know that this is a rapidly developing situation, and that we will be adjusting and updating as quickly as we can. If you would like to have your voice considered as part of the conversation as we go forward, please join the ongoing discussion on discourse or reach out to me directly.

If you have any needs that aren’t being met or answered below, please don’t hesitate to reach out: benny@almalinux.org FAQs (because there are already many):

Below are a few questions we’ve seen already come up multiple times. We’ll update this with any additional questions we see as we continue on. Does this mean I won’t be getting security updates for my AlmaLinux OS Server?

No. In the immediate term, our plan is to pull from CentOS Stream updates and Oracle Linux updates to ensure security patches continue to be released. These updates will be carefully curated to ensure they are 1:1 compatible with RHEL, while not violating Red Hat’s licensing, and will be vetted and tested just like all of our other releases. Who is involved in the conversations about the next steps for AlmaLinux at this time?

To date our board, our president, and all of our SIG leaders have been involved in the conversations, as well as many other members of the community. If you would like to be involved in the conversations, please join the ongoing discussion on discourse or reach out to me directly. Can you just use CentOS Stream sources?

No, we are committed to remaining a downstream RHEL clone, and using CentOS Stream sources would make us upstream of RHEL. CentOS Stream sources, while being upstream of RHEL, do not always include all patches and updates that are included in RHEL packages. Is Red Hat trying to kill downstream clones?

We cannot speak to Red Hat’s intentions, and can only point to the things they have said publicly. We have had an incredible working relationship with Red Hat through the life of AlmaLinux OS and we hope to see that continue.

 
 
 
 

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[–] Burger@burggit.moe 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Well, my laptop crashed while I was installing packages in the installer, so I'm going Xubuntu now. I use librewolf anyways, so I should be safe from the snap cancer.

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 3 points 2 years ago

What a nice home cooked meal

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That's a big yikes from me dawg. This isn't wholesome keanu chungus.

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's what I'm expecting to happen. The NBA subreddit really got mad at the mods for closing it down because they needed to converse on there while watching Basketball Americans play some playoff game or whatever.

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have a pessimistic personality, so don't mind me. Lol.

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

N-no.. This was a warning shot, you see! Just you wait, we'll get that Spez!

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 4 points 2 years ago

Reddit slacktivism at its finest.

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Might explain why we fell off the join-lemmy.org list 😔

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 2 points 2 years ago

I'd be using Arch if I was wanting a rolling release distro. It's hands down the best distro for the task imo. But this stereotype is somewhat true to an extent, rofl.

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 1 points 2 years ago

Almost spat out my drink.

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 1 points 2 years ago

No need. I think he can manage tripping down the stairs by himself.

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