Evinceo

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[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 4 points 9 hours ago

His substack reads like LW.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 1 points 9 hours ago

feel like the analogy to the drug trade is still pretty relevant given the violence and predation that the black market pretty much inevitably attracts and sustains. Like, maybe you know a guy who has his own grow op or whatever, but cocaine and heroin money is going through the cartels at some point in the chain and they’re going to use some portion of it for bullets that end up in some journalist’s kids or something.

I lost something in my brevity but my point was the question of how practical stopping a practice is. Alcohol is a ruinous force for bad at every level of society from homeless to Hegseth but a ban won't work because it literally cannot be enforced, we tried, it failed. It's made by yeast! AI on the other hand is only sustained at great expense by a delicate chain of high tech, high energy systems. It's a choice.

While I don’t think we should allow slop to invest every forum any more than addicts should be allowed to shoot up on every corner, I think that if shaming makes people less likely to acknowledge that they’re going down a dead-end road and reach out to their communities and support networks for help addressing the root of what drove them to these maladaptive antisolutions in the first place then shaming is making things worse, not better.

The pendulum is so far on the other side that I can't even entertain the analogy of AI users being poor harried addicts hiding their use. My boss tells me to use more AI every day. I hate it and I want everyone to hate it. The emotion I want people to associate with it is disgust. Disgust is a powerful emotion, and it dehumanizes those it is associated with.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 1 points 10 hours ago

If they understand that AI is like germs I do not care if sometimes people eat food off the floor following the ten second rule. But we aren't even there yet, people think it's like gold or mana from heaven or something.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 10 points 10 hours ago

I would once again like to gloat that I called it.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 7 points 10 hours ago

After the first copycat maybe some calls got made /tinfoil

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Which is both the original transhumanist cope to enable so-called consciousness upload so it’s not just copying a simulacrum of your personality to a computer while you continue to rot away

Often-missed point btw.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Kalanick now runs a robotics startup; in his free time, he said recently, he uses OpenAI’s ChatGPT “to get to the edge of what’s known in quantum physics.

When I read that I assumed they included it for color to make him sound insane.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If tokens ever become expensive people are gonna start using these to code until they get shut down.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago

I need to find an entirely new profession, everyone in software now is fucking deranged.

Mood

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I feel like there's a difference between alcohol and drugs, something people can make in their back yard and AI which requires a first world country's entire economy to be oriented towards it to function... a difference in what we should be required to accept.

I don't buy the general argument about shame either. We teach children to shit in toilets and not sidewalks. I see rampant AI use as just another form of disgusting public indecency and the faster we bring shame in to remedy it the better.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It seems vaguely AI flavored to me inasmuch as it's using contrasts too much (it's not x it's y) and it's way too verbose. Also it's obviously wrong at least in my experience, middle managers aren't the sparrows, individual contributors (especially juniors) are.

Maybe that's just a symptom of a person reading too much AI text and thinking a good tweet would make a great substack.

 

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but so far the choice line is:

I like how you just dropped the “Vance is interested in right authoritarianism” like it’s a known fact to base your entire point on. Vance is the clearest demonstration of a libertarian the republicans have in high office. It’s an absurd ad hominem that you try to mask in your wall of text.

 

The actually not even really a hatchet job NYT piece on SlateScott that mostly just called him a weird little guy has nonetheless created a festering psychic wound that oozes to this day. Here manifests as an interview with the author on LW. See also: discussion on reddit.

My favorite section, talking about how people are mad that be brought up Scott's notorious race stuff™️:

CM: That's great. That's a valid position. There are other valid positions where people say, we need to not go so close to that, because it's dangerous and there's a slippery slope. The irony of this whole situation is that some people who feel that I should not have gone there, who think I should not explore the length and breadth of that situation, are the people who think you should always go there.

 

Hounding the president of Harvard out of a job because you think she's a DEI hire is one thing, but going after a Billionaire's wife? How dare these journalists! What big bullies.

Bonus downplaying of EA's faults. He of course phrases the Bostrom affair as someone being "accused" of sending a racist email, as if there were any question as to who sent it, or if it was racist. And acts like it's not just the cherry on top of a lifetime of Bostrom's work.

 

Utilitarian brainworms or one of the many very real instances of a homicidal parent going after their disabled child? I can't decide, but it's a depressing read.

May end up on SRD, but you read it here first.

 

Someone posted this on ssc with a warning about talking to cops, but really just marvel at what's going on here.

Aaronson manages to turn a story where he is briefly arrested for a theft (which he did commit on video!) into paragraphs and paragraphs of indulging in his persecution fantasies.

Zero empathy on display for the people he stole from, the people just doing their jobs, or reflection on the fact that it wasn't a simple little mistake anyone could make but rather... a fairly weird move? Do people usually put change in cups?

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