JuneFall

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[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

If you think those resisting genocide are fascists

Don't try black propaganda here, not in any way did I claim that. You are ignoring the structures of Gazan orgs and society, you are talking without investigating and you are disturbing. I recommend you disengage.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Palestinians fighting for their survival are not reactionary

If you think that then you aren't a Marxist. Of course within Gazan society and Hamas you have reactionaries and reactionary actions. Are all? No. Plenty of groups that are or were active in Gaza aren't reactionary. Read Marx's https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1852/18th-brumaire/

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

to first check who at an Israeli festival is a settler and who isn't before

This is what the RAF did with the kidnapping of the Landshut flight. Which was a problem as some Germans did select people for being Jewish/non Jewish. But yes, if you do stuff like that you have to discriminate in any case.

However what you do tell, too, is that killing the ravers (and taking them hostage), is okay in any case as corollary. Rojava was able to fight Isis more targeted than that. The PKK of old did target more focused, as was Mao's and Enlai's actions.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

There are virtually no completely US made products anymore. But in any case any car you buy that is completely US made is a commodity of the kind I mention. That is more than comparable to a flight. What you want to say is: I find it acceptable to targeted kill hundreds of ravers outside the occupied territory in Palestine, including tourists, Israeli Arabs and alike.

What I wrote wasn't the cheapest option but for cars the cheapest US option is comparable and you are aware that you are not in general having an as principled stance as you give it now.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Taking hostages is fine, and wtf are you supposed to do if you take parents hostage? Just leave the children there in the middle of a war zone alone?

Israel is small. You can leave the children and the videos of the kids show that the children are not protected, they are hit with sticks and batons and insulted as Jews. Besides that, yes. Those kids are not Tsarist kids. Save your gray propaganda for good goals. You can also find a video in which parents are killed and a child is taken. Or children that are killed. For the outcry that a targeted and thus killed journalist by IDF forces took this ignores that there is a strategic level of Hamas which obviously encouraged what happens, as it is wide spread and communicated via established Hamas video channels and thus shown, it also got an individual vengeance and revenge component.

The actions of Hamas do show their regressive reactionary nature and that the solidarity for socialist groups in Israel is not existent within them. What we know now, too, is also that it doesn't seem to have been a unified operation, meaning that the PFLP and other Marxist groups within Gaza are not really having impact on the strategic operations or are shut out completely.

This means that critical solidarity ought to be critical. If you do a large incursion like that you really argue that shooting young ravers and killing some after taking them hostage, is the best use of your short lived incursion? In any case I have yet to have seen text based Marxist reasoning which isn't vibes based or goes beyond "national liberation justifies any violence".

What is the aim here is to say any person - which includes plenty of Israeli Arabs (at least 20% of the population), also some who were at the rave - outside of Gaza and West Jordan is a legitimate aim to be killed, tortured, (sexually) assaulted, kidnapped. The terror of the guillotine and the committee for hygiene was more targeted and more in line with progressive politics than that. The "no excuse for the terror" doesn't mean it is arbitrary terror, it is focused on revolutionary goals. They also could've had Marxist and pre Marxist reasoning. The operation in Palestina and Israel was not one of national liberation with a class based analysis, but one in which there are people assigned as oppressing colonialists (everyone at the rave i.e. who wasn't coming from Gaza).

The goal of course is to weaken Israel's tourism industry, to unify power within Gaza, to divide Israel and Saudi Arabia and have hostages to do prisoner swaps. Though it is somewhat unlikely that this nearly 60 year old practice will work as before with the current right wing government in Israel and the lack of current good will. It did strengthen unity in Israel.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Targeting tourists at a rave on stolen land next to an open air prison that holds the rightful stewards of that land is ok

Please give me Marxist text backing for your position.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This is a stance that would mean that any person buying US/UK/French/Iranian/Turkish/South Korean/Philipine/Maroccon/Brazilian/Mexican products deserves to die.

It is a moralistic idealist claim, not a Marxist one.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Abducting kids is not okay, hitting them is not okay, sexual violence is not okay, targeting tourists at a rave is not okay.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Is there any evidence that Hamas have been committing sexual violence?

Yes. Even inside of Gaza i.e. against some people deemed gay, some "traitors". Within torture it is mostly not complementary with sexual violence. So within this conflict there will be some cases, the question will be if it is widespread policy (unlikely), if it is "lack of oversight+patriarchy+spaces without law+antisemitism", etc.

However in any case the limit for certain types of violence and certain targets of violence is important. During the last day we did see that plenty on this site aren't really differentiating or equating everyone in Israel as guilty and therefore fine to be killed (without making clear if they mean targeted, or as collateral damage i.e. car bombings that kill civilians in front of military bases).

The line of the ANC's MK was different in that regard that not all violence and all targets were seen as acceptable or justified. So the site's line is more regressive than feminist Marxists ought to be.

*Edit: Hamas did shit the bed in this operation. *

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Turkish attacks since 4th of October against Syria / Rojava are basically invisible in media. The support of some who focus on Palestine and ignore Syria/Rojava is not a principled stance.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The project was doomed partly because Soviet Jews already had a place in their communities more or less.

Since the worst antisemitism of the Tsar was ended with the October revolution and the years after it, that rings as if it could be true.

 

German news magazine video. Germany and USA bought swiss Crypto AG and put backdoors into their encryption tools. Were aware of anti Marxist actions by the USA, the coup in Chile against Allende and didn't do anything against that.

English subtitles

 

CW orientalism, suicide, torture (students which are working for 14 hours a day

 
 

This is the Thinker from Yehud, a statue preceding thinking as something modeled after boxers to look masculine by nearly 4000 years.

 
 
 

See title, this builds up on the previous request for reading lists, but is a bit more open ended and is supposed to be a contemporary update that I would like to post twice a year.

The texts at best are accessible without too much previous knowledge. Open for videos, and other media, as well as group formats, and activities too. You have to participate in protest training and actually cook for others to see how both those things feel.

I would be more happy with fewer thick works or only excerpts from complicated stuff, than to suggest the complete collection of Marx's works. Some popular and recent books i.e. Jakarta Method, Klein, or recent organizing books would be welcome, too.

The next time I post this question (and feel free to paste your own suggested template) will be December/January 2023.

 

See title.

 

The upper number is the highest I could find, so it likely is a margin lower.

While :ukkk: newspapers title:

The states of Kerala and West Bengal banned government employees from joining the strike, and Maharashtra invoked an emergency law banning the 80,000 workers in its power companies from striking.

The Polit Bureau of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) congratulates the working class for the successful 48-hour general strike held on March 28-29. Millions of workers responded to the call given by 10 Central Trade Unions and various sectoral federations.

Note: The 250 million number got removed from the original article I found it in.

The strike follows the 2020 general strike which might've been the largest in history till that moment

Millions of Indian workers to join two-day general strike against Modi’s ruinous pro-investor policies

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