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that's fair, since the instance owners are hosting for us. The only thing is, I feel like the users might not know about this. I didn't really think about it until a little later that oh yeah, there is no [search for something "fediverse"] google search, and we're encouraged to join new instances and for the most part think of them as just servers to build the fediverse. I know I shouldn't try to box the fediverse ideas like reddit, but I am finding it frustrating that the decentralization is having these cons.

Yeah I'm honestly seeing this as a big turn off for users to join smaller instances, which is a goal many fediverse people want.
It really sucks that I made an account on a smaller instance for lemmy, and there were some technical difficulties/learning curve on my end to add a community (which I won't run into if I stay on a large instance), but then even after I did add the community, there are no posts. I made a lemmy account since it allows you to save posts, which kbin atm can't do. However, when I'm able to add the community on the lemmy account, there's none of the previous posts, so I can't save it.

I think the instances themselves don't feel much different (for example the UI for lemmy.world and lemmy.studio is like exactly the same), but I feel like maybe there needs to be some quality of life tools to help a new instance succeed with more ease.

• Like it's hard to know that the instance exists, so it'd be nice if the UI makes signing up for one as easy as possible,
• One big con at the moment too is it's actually kind of hard for me to find communities in a small instance. The large instances somehow people already added like all of them, so I can search for pretty much all of them. I think to encourage joining new instances, ideally should give the creator an easy way to like just add every single community across different aggregators. Maybe even a bot that just automatically does this so it doesn't have to be updated, or at least give the creator of that instance that option if they so choose
• Give easy way to migrate account. For example today I just learned about a website with a list of the kbin servers, and thought maybe I should move from kbin.social to put less strain on it. However, I made my kbin.social account with my gmail, and I prefer to be lazy and just log in through gmail. I can't make a new account on say kbin.chat with that same gmail account actually, so I'd have to use another email account, and I didn't want to do that. Also in my 2 days on kbin, I made a community, and if I just abandon my kbin.social account, I don't know who would be the "mod" of that community now. There's already some data I'd like to not have to start over on

oh, maybe it's cuz I'm on a less populated server for lemmy. I'm on lemmy.studio and it's been good, but it's actually really hard to know about any non-lemmy communities. I believe you can only search up "Redditmigration" on lemmy.world since someone already did the initial work to subscribe to it. On lemmy.studio, most of even the lemmy communities aren't on there yet, but at least the lemmy browser will let you see what's out there, so you can know to do the work to be the first to subscribe to it on that less populated server. However, there would be no way to know about the kbin communities if all I'm looking at is that lemmy browser

I'm guessing kbin would have the same issue( but im on a popular server there, kbin.social, so I can't confirm. Everything here, like you has been searchable for me probably cuz it's big so people have already subscribed)

I think there needs to be an easier way to see communities/magazines across aggregators because I see the lemmy browse sites for communities won't show any kbin magazines, which I think will only hurt the point of decentralizing but being able to access all the content in the fediverse.

I'm not sure if kbin actually suffers the same way, because I'm on kbin.social which I'm guessing just already has all the current lemmy communities added. But if there's a new lemmy community, and no one added it to kbin.social (how would they find out?) then no one will find out if this lemmy community blows up and becomes really popular right?

okay the only thing is, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to keep making instance names that don't start with kbin.___ because then if kbin/lemmy really do take off, it would be so hard to google search for them. You can't do the site:kbin.* search if those instances with different names make magazines/communities and you can't find them with that google filter

The only thing that'd be cool is if these community browsers could add the search for other communities as well, like for the kbin aggregator's communities. There's one called RedditMigration (https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration or @RedditMigration) that has more than 250 posts, and it's started on kbin.social. It would be cool to be able to search more easily other communities so that it's easier to find the content on the fediverse.

Kbin can improve its community search too but I am finding it easier to know about other communities not on kbin on its search. Whereas, on lemmy, maybe it's because I'm on a lower population instance, but it's very hard to find a community if it's not on lemmy, and I didn't already just know about it from the kbin account

yeah that's what I'm struggling with too, like it'd be great if we could encourage people to try these, but at the same time I don't want to give them a bad first impression to turn them off forever if they can not stand it's still a baby project (understandable). I honestly don't think it's that hard to start using these fediverse products though, and I feel like the posts saying "lemmy will never take off", "kbin is too hard to use" only gave me barriers to start using it. And then when I did start, I was like oh this is great, everyone's talking, it's a close community

I do think you are overreacting a little bit about people being potentially invested in the fediverse/invested in trying to find a different home to replace reddit. It's not a bad thing for people to care and be unhappy about the way their reddit forum is being run. Without any emotions at all, there can be no actions or changes done anyway. How would people have transitioned from diggs to reddit if some core users weren't upset enough to test the waters with reddit?

People want to avoid and use reddit less because they don't approve of the way the company is running their product. If you don't feel uncomfortable using reddit, that's great, and you absolutely should just use either/both the way you enjoy it. However, it seems like your argument is that no one should be unhappy to the extent they stop using reddit, and I feel like everyone can have products they don't want to buy anymore due to their internal ethics. It's just a human thing to do to.

I think they want to push for it, and I'm also encouraging people to give it a try because it's not as good without the members. Most of the subs I miss are too niche so they won't really be populated here if not enough people try this fediverse thing out. I already decided I was okay with giving up the subs, but I think I still want to do my best to try to build this as a platform if it's viable. I don't think just because people are trying to advertise fediverse means they're hardcore stuck on this as a platform and desperate. It's kind of just the natural thing to do for anyone who wants to transition to a large forum. There's a lot of other small forums too besides this one

I think it won’t be able to get everything since the search result is the webpage that’s gonna be on different communities.

I tried these searches, and they have different results. I’d be missing some content on the fediverse on the topic if I didn’t remember to include all these

pear site:kbin.social
pear site:kbin.*
pear site:lemmy.*

I'm not sure because I'm still new to kbin too. I'm also on kbin.social which is already big and people have already subscribed before to many of the magazines. So far it's always worked for me to use the search bar on the Magazines page, and just type the name or part of the name of the Lemmy community. It's kind of nice too since it'll show all existing communities/mags, and number of threads made, number of kbin.social subscribers.

for example I just try to type "anime" to find subs like that, and I tried "seattle" and could find it, but I'm guessing it's because you did that work just now to be the first subscriber on kbin.social?