Multiplexer

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The capacitive touchscreen alone was definitely something special.

For sure. Although l think the actual remarkable point is how it had been utilized.

There are reasons these were not in wide use yet. I remember discussing using a capacitive touchscreen for a project in 2004 already. We settled for a resistive one, as the effort to adept the existing SW to a capacitive one would have been too great.
Apple didn't have this technical debt and could design its stuff from the ground up to fit the new input method. And it did that exceptionally well, which is part of the reason for its success.

But the means of input isn't what made a smartphone smart.
So, coming back to the original premise, I could even still have a 25 year old smartphone package, if I e.g. had owned a Siemens SX45 back then (I had a SL45i, which also was almost, but in reality not quite, a smartphone)

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

No, it also supportedl standard html. And not just in theory, I routinely visited such pages with the phone. Limiting factor was rather the screen size here, sometimes leading to strangely rendered pages. But there already existed smartphones with bigger screens, eg. the Nokia communicators, which didn't have that specific issue.

Yes, the IPhone revolutionized the market, especially because it turned the old distribution models upside-down (which the established manufacturers were in no position to do).

But purely from a technical standpoint it was nothing completely special. Some things were better, some things worse than for other phones.

The symbian phones were typically much better from the classical technical standpoint.
Windows CE devices had superior versatility.
Blackberry was optimized for business integration.
But all high-end devices were "smartphones" at that stage.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

No full Internet access, extremely limited selection of applications solely provided by the vendor

That's not true. Full internet access, also for installed apps and unusual protocols, and any app supporting the right Java features could be installed (I had some OSS ones and even ones out of the competing Nokia store - I think they had a nice calculator app...)

Actually, these points would apply much more to the IPhone 1, as you could only install apps from their store and it had crippled connectivity (vividly remember a friend who had it constantly complaining about the speed because of missing UMTS, among other things).

You are right insofar, as I would not tread it as a smartphone by todays standards.
But neither would l tread the IPhone 1 as one.
And yet both were in 2007.
Standards change... 🤷‍♂️

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

Siemens EF81.

Feature-wise roughly comparable to the first IPhone.
Internet/Mail/Office stuff, installable apps, multimedia and camera, gaming.

As you already said, smartphones have been around since the late 90s/early 00s, with constantly increasing functionality. Even if people today wouldn't directly recognize them as such, as the typical formfactor has changed during the late 00s.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

You are somewhat right, I just looked up the phone I was thinking about, it is from 2006.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

As our phones are all inventorized from the start and have barcodes on the back, this is not necessary where l work.
Also, we don't have much employee fluctuation, so phones are typically only returned when they are broken or obsolete to get de-inventorized (via barcode again).

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 15 hours ago

Much easier to send back and no discussions about completeness.
Full refund period over here is 2 weeks, but very customer friendly warranty regulations after that.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That's interesting, because the boxes of my work phones are the only ones I throw away immediately.

Why should I care to return the phone to my employer in a fitting box?

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 15 hours ago (15 children)

Not entirely true.

Several times aIready I have been glad having kept them when I had to return devices because of warranty stuff.

So it makes sense to keep the boxes for half a year or so.

Real problem is, in reality I still have smartphone boxes dating from 2005 lying around which I am just too damn lazy to sort out... 😒

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 20 hours ago

Ah, OK! Language misunderstanding on my part, as apparently "sailing" in English does not exclusively refer to wind-powered means of locomotion...

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 20 hours ago

Different kind of drop bars than on a road bike, though: Wider and more upright sitting position.
Worth trying out at least once when looking for a new bike.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 20 hours ago

Great!
A much more wholesome story than I expected!
Sadly, some kind of tragic refugee story is much more likely nowadays...

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Butt (infosec.pub)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butt_(unit)

Suspecting a butt load of very vague beer transactions...

 

Bislang wohl etabliert im Oberrheingraben, jetzt auch in Franken.
Gesellt sich schön zur Asiatischen Tigermücke, die hier in der Nachbarschaft auch seit 5 Jahren eine fest etablierte Population hat...
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCne_Reiswanze

 

Ich kenne die alpine Gemeinschaft in Österreich als traditionell, aber sehr offen.
Ihr verdient es echt nicht, dass Eure schönen Wanderwege mit unseren rechtsnationalen Intoleranz-Stickern zugekleistert werden.
Aber zumindest diesen hier konnte ich in mühsamer Handarbeit entfernen.

 

Ich bin fassungslos.
Da gibt es anscheinend wirklich organisierte Horden von Arschlöchern, die sich auf Zuruf auf komplett positive junge Menschen stürzen, mit dem einzigen Ziel, sie niederzumachen.

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