MyBrainHurts

Honestly, this is an age where we really need to be working on deescalating as much as possible.

I fully agree. And I would hope part of that de-escalation would be finding common ground with those with whom we disagree.

Instead of forcing the individual users to come and be yelled at one at a time, I'd love for them to have a place so we can start some sort of talks, even if it's just stupid shit like what video games they like. I dunno. If we can't find common ground then it's just two sides trying to destroy each other until it's too late to solve our actual problems.

No real harm in trying.

Otherwise, yay, we're just in our own obnoxious echo chamber being angry that people don't agree with us instead of talking with those whom we need to persuade.

Yeah, I get similarly silly stuff from the right, where they have readnheard of something but don't quite understand how it applies, eg:

"I guess you haven't read the Constitution!"

"Free speech is about government, not public outcry."

Such is life.

I'm assuming you're talking about trans rights?

Show me where that exists in anything published by the trump campaign or project 2025.

As far as I understand, neither have said "we will murder all trans people."

These sorts of claims are exactly why I'd like to hear what MAGA has to say. It's just the same as people who claimed Harris was going abolish private property; undoubtedly some of her supporters were from our crazy Left fringe but to conflate them with her was, at best, mind numbingly stupid.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

and it invariably moves us up the rungs on the ladder toward genocide.

Wow, that is a damn crazy assertion. And exactly why more discussion is a good thing.

It is the only relevant part.

And so far, no one has given an example of the harms or bad behaviour that would warrent defederation. It's just been "I disagree with them so defederate."

Yeah it worked out so well for America that they elected Trump twice and his style of politics has become more popular.

Oh, I hadn't realized America was secretly not super polarized and has plenty of actual spaces where people meet, interact and talk with folks with whom they disagree.

You know we just elected a 34-time fraud convict and adjudicated rapist to the Presidency here, right?

Exactly the point. When things are so bad half the country is willing to say "yeah, but we trust him more than the fucking Left" something is seriously wrong.

If we don't work to figure out how to win folks over, things are going to get much much worse.

My life will be fine kind of regardless but I worry for others.

No, I'm just confident in the power of reality and facts. It's why I admire Pete Buttigieg for going on and making the Liberal case on Fox news. We're not converting anyone who disagrees with us here.