Natanael

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[–] Natanael 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Go away.

Even I2P uses supernodes, that doesn't make it centralized because you don't depend on them.

You don't need ultra purist single-type-node mesh like scuttlebutt to be decentralized.

Bluesky is federated, where the federation has multiple layers and EVERY layer can be run independently and interconnected to other nodes.

You can even connect to MULTIPLE! An appview can talk to many relays, a PDS account host can talk to many relays, anybody can subscribe to multiple separate feeds generators and moderation labelers hosted wherever, using any app, etc.

Beyond that, you still have not addressed that you said a blatantly self contradicting statement; that people self host relays, but also they don't self host relays because that is costly and the self hosted relay code available to the public is experimental and mainly used for reasons tangential to the core function of a production ready relay.

Your inability to read remains YOUR problem, not mine.

My point is exactly this - it's feasible to maintain your own private relay by mirroring the content you want, imitating both Mastodon and scuttlebutt.

You can choose to share a community relay - or not.

Running it for an audience of yourself is reasonably cheap. Running it for a worldwide audience is where bandwidth gets expensive. That's why people run private ones.

Not capable of synchronizing with the original? Lmao. It's literally content addressed, you can synchronize with every relay separately, swap arbitrarily between public appviews, regardless of who runs what and where it gets data from. It's maximally capable of synchronization. It even beats nostr and scuttlebutt because you can VERIFY you have fresh and complete data (Merkle trees yay).

Pretty sure Whitewind pulls in data themselves directly when users use self hosted atproto accounts, maintaining its own relay index. Don't think they make it publicly accessible though

Not having gatekeepers is what matters the most. You can run all infrastructure yourself and still interact with bluesky users (need to use DID:Web, but that's a minor point)

[–] Natanael 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sorry what, an example of a 3rd party service proving 3rd party mirrors exists proves it's vulnerable to what? It's content addressed and as open as it gets, it's literally designed to survive if the company goes down

[–] Natanael 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Those are factors that create an expectation of value.

[–] Natanael 32 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Almost anything where memorization is the primary skill is going to be dominated by people with specific interest, rather than general high intelligence (certainly doesn't exclude it, but it's just statistics). Gotta look for something frequently requiring novel problem solving and adaption to filter for high probability of high general intelligence.

Then there's also a lot of games requiring very narrow intellectual ability. Being able to parse a specific ruleset, or doing a specific kind of math fast, without needing to be able to handle anything novel. You'll certainly find some "interesting individuals" around those kinds of games.

[–] Natanael 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Generation why is the world like this

[–] Natanael 5 points 5 months ago

Yup, very few rare earth metals are actually rare in absolute terms. Most deposits simply aren't worth the trouble.

[–] Natanael 10 points 5 months ago

Are you saying there's millions of nazis who want others dead just because of where they were born? That sounds like a problem

[–] Natanael -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not knowing what a relay does and going on the attack over it makes you the fanatic.

It's an archive node, which can (but doesn't have to) forward ingested data

[–] Natanael -1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Choosing to not understand the architecture is your failure, not mine

[–] Natanael 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But that IS the point. The possibility of running independently PLUS the ability of bluesky users to migrate their account wholesale away from bluesky servers to 3rd party servers means you're not dependent on them.

They're literally designing for the principle of "the company is a future adversary" (see: Twitter, et al).

[–] Natanael 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Currently, you have stuff like Clearsky (it's basically an archive.org for bluesky)

[–] Natanael 3 points 5 months ago
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