Paragone

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[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Partway through the article..

He's making a couple of fundamental mistakes..

Social-process has phases exactly the same as fluid-dynamics, or other physics-processes, does.

the phase in-which casual rules about free-speech are good-enough, is finished, this fall, globally: the ever-escalating polarization enforced by the anti-considered-reasoning lobbies

( read Kahneman's "Thinking, Fast and Slow" book, to really understand the difference between the imprint->reaction brain-system ( lower forebrain, from the stuff in "Top Brain / Bottom Brain" ), which Kahneman & Tversky called .. uninformatively .. "System 1", & the considered-reasoning brain-system ( upper forebrain, from that same book & the research which identified that programming uses the upper-forebrain significantly in ways that normal-speech/language definitely does not )

.. will finally have extinguished-from-our-world such capacity.

Both the Leninists & the Republicans eradicate considered-reasoning from education, in order to enforce imprint->reaction's rule, instead

( imprint->reaction, aka axiom-based-knowing, is a defining-feature of formal-systems, ideologies, prejudices, & "religions".

All reject evidence's validity-to-falsify them.

All hold that their-axioms are inherently more valid than contradictory universe-speech/evidence.

All are automatic/reactive.

Hofstadter's "Godel Escher Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid" demonstrated this, in the interactions between the hare & the tortoise. )

So, he's ignoring that in different social-process-phases, different-rules-for-free-speech are required.

shrug


Here's a point that he rejects:

Can a person's opinion disqualify them from a category of authority?

I say absolutely yes it can:

Anybody who rejects the region's aviation-authority's right to regulate aviation, MUST be prohibited from piloting aircraft: they are too great a threat to others' lives.

Anybody who rejects a country's legitimacy, & holds that other-country has the right to subjugate it ( like a citizen in Ukraine holding that Russia has the right to demolish/butcher/obliterate Ukraine ) is functionally a pathogen in the "organism" of Ukraine, & ought not be permitted to exercise the authority to vote.

Responsibility-based-authority has to be the basis, in all domains.

Not authority-is-a-right, but responsible-authority is a privilege-or-right.

Expressing meaning has to be in the same regime: enforcing disinformation's displacing of truth isn't a free-speech-right, it is active-treason against considered-reasoning's ABILITY to govern our countries.

Therefore even the opinion that "tylenol is the cause of autism" has to be subject to fact-checking's overruling, because disinformation acts through social-pressure/forces, and can derail countries thereby, and that isn't anyone's right to be doing.

So, .. responsibility-based-rights is what I hold humankind has to stand on, but .. obviously that is a very-minority view.


Whatever.. consequences'll happen, either way: some ways are whole-species-fatal, though.

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[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Each religion, including fundamentalist-atheism, tells its people something that at some level they want to hear.

The Abrahamic religions were suited to the people that those religions took-root in.

The savagely-scientific AwakeSoulism/Buddhism couldn't possibly have taken-root among those people.

Fundamentalist-atheism takes-root in people who want that, & then they won't even contemplate the question of why the electromagnetic-force ( mediator of all normal/terrestrial chemistry ) behaves differently in disintegrating-corpses, vs growing-organisms.. producing different results?

It's the SAME force!

WHY is it disintegrating 1 body, but growing the other?

Physicalism has proclaimed ( see "God: The Failed Hypothesis" by Victor Stenger, for 1 example of this ) that "anybody who invokes the immaterial.." ( notice that awareness isn't protons, neutrons, or electrons: it isn't matter, therefore awareness is categorically included in this declaration ) "..is invoking the supernatural!"

But flip that on its head:

Any "physics" which doesn't accurately describe how mind ALTERS the behavior of matter, including explaining how the intersection of knowing & will can somehow create airliners, culture, science, etc.., ( obviously NOT "random interactions of particles ) ISN'T complete!

( see Hofstadter's book "Godel Escher Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid", for how you have to choose EITHER self-consistent-knowing XOR complete-matching-Universe, & that is mathematically proven )

Here's part of why I value AwakeSoulism.. it ORDERED Empiricism, the ONLY true Science.

"Do not go by revelation;
Do not go by tradition;
Do not go by hearsay;
Do not go on the authority of sacred texts;
Do not go on the grounds of pure logic;
Do not go by a view that seems rational;
Do not go by reflecting on mere appearances;
Do not go along with a considered view because you agree with it;
Do not go along on the grounds that the person is competent;
Do not go along because "the recluse is our teacher."
Kalamas, when you yourselves know: These things are unwholesome, these things are blameworthy; these things are censured by the wise; and when undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill, abandon them...
Kalamas, when you know for yourselves: These are wholesome; these things are not blameworthy; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness, having undertaken them, abide in them."

Kalama Sutta - Angutarra Nikaya 3.65

Why do I call it the ONLY true Science?

There is a concept outside-centrism that is captured by a biblical-Greek term, eklegos.

The Christian who was explaining this concept ( Dr. Gene Scott ) was explaining that relying-on-other/higher-power was inherent in their religion, but has been lost in ours.

Interestingly, outside-centrism is what differentiates Empiricism from all formal-systems/ideologies/prejudices/"religions" nowadays:

All the self-sufficient ones, even if they identify as being based-on-universe, or being based-on-evidence, or being based-on-G-D, if they reject worldview-altering falsification, then they hold that their axioms outrank evidence/universe's-speech!

& THAT falsifies the whole category of them all, in my eyes.

IF you hold that your system-of-knowing CANNOT be falsified by contradictory-evidence, THEN you hold that your-belief is The Ultimate Answer(tm).

However, IF you hold that evidence contradicting your belief that holds up to testing actually obliges one to change-one's-worldview ( as Empiricism does ), THEN .. now one is doing exactly what Buddha Gautama instructed.

Eklegos.

Outside-centrism.

What really makes the difference funny, is that in Beaumeister's book "Willpower", he identified that the evidence clearly showed that relying-on-a-higher-power was required for a profound-addict to win against addiction, but .. he rejected that that was valid/true-requirement.

IOW, he demonstrated axiom-based "science", right there, rejecting Empricism.

Evidence forced me into the Dharmic-religions' cosmology ( I discovered that I'd remembered some of my continuum's/soul's memories from other-kinds-of-lives, which was incompatible with ALL Western frames-of-reference ), & it took YEARS to adjust my worldview to that evidence.

Universe recycles ALL energies contained within it, including meaning-energies!

Physicalism/materialism/scientism prohibits that.


So, pick which scheme-of-knowing one prefers!

Axiom-based knowing, in which case contradictory-evidence doesn't threaten one's established-assumptions, or ego/identity,

XOR evidence-based knowing, in which case one can be forced that far, .. in my case from medical-research ( father ) & Christianity ( mother ) all the way over to AwakeSoulist Empiricism, .. by evidence itself..


No, I'm not pretending that you, or anybody, has any reason to accept what I, or others, have found TESTS to be true: our experiment-results are vetoed by all Western-culture axioms/assumptions, right?

I AM saying that anyone who has the neurological-means/basis to do the profound experiments, and who does them properly, may earn the same category-of-results that others have already done.

( the book "Maharshi's Gospel" is the instructions, given in oral exchanges, between Ramana Maharshi, a Hindu, who'd broken-right-through to the AWARENESS-but-no-"self" profound-level of meditation, & eventually he simply .. didn't come back from it.

I'm recommending it because it isn't Buddhist: Truth can stand on its own!

You want another book that cuts right through oceans of ignorance, perhaps more-pertinent?

Huston Smith's "World Religions".

Brilliant, incisive, & mind-opening.

I only read the Hindu, Buddhist, & Primal religions, because the Abrahamic religions have sooo offended my Empiricism-religion that I .. kinda want nothing to do with engaging-them, anymore.

Objectively, I ought correct that, for scientific-integrity's sake.

Here's a link to the assumption-shattering profound work by him:

https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-world-s-religions-revised-and-updated


Relentlessly keep exploring!

Awareness is the most magical substance!

What else is living for, other-than learning/exploring-meanings/exploring-understanding?

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[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Too bad they didn't have the scientific-integrity to test whether anti-Palestinian-prejudice ALSO predicted support for political-violence.

Perhaps a month ago, I saw in a single week, 2 articles:

1 was by an Israeli Jew, who surveyed Palestinians, & discovered that 45% ( -/+ 2 or 3 %, it was the similarity that struck me, not the individual-numbers ) of them wanted the extermination of Israeli Jews..

But, of course, he wouldn't dare to question what percentage of Israeli Jews wanted the extermination of Palestinians, would he?

The other was by a Palestinian, who surveyed Israeli Jews, & discovered that 45% ( -/+ 2 or 3 %, as mentioned above ) of them wanted the extermination of Palestinians..

But, of course, he wouldn't dare to question what percentage of Palestinians wanted the extermination of Israeli Jews, would he?


Pretending that prejudice is "only 1 way" is a gaslighting common to prejudice-pushers/ideologues.

Scientific integrity breaks that, but political-motivation hasn't got the spine to.


No matter: the unconscious strategy of Hamas was to use the Palestinians as bait, to get Israel to display such sadism/psychopathy that Israel's "deterrent" of its region from annihilating it .. would cease.

Once enough population is committed to annihilating one AT ANY COST, including "martyrdom", THEN one has no "deterrent" left, obviously.

Israel, incompetent at understanding anything outside its belief, .. took the bait.

Now it's only a matter of time, before that annihilation ( predicted in the Christian bible's Matt 24, btw, total-annihilation, in a single day, which wasn't possible until nowadays ) happens, due to Netanyahu's shamelessness & arrogance..

Before his striking within Qatar, I'd thought it would be 3-4y before that annihilation would happen, given how mind-warpingly-slow the unfolding of this setting-up-WW3 has been going..

But now that he's crossed that line, that shortens the timescale, perhaps considerably..


Beware unconscious-mind's strategy: it's goal is to MAKE its myth-fantasies actualize ( which is where all the apoctalypticism comes from, & also where all the "zombies" movies & games are coming from, too )!

Every addict whose life was gradually & systematically destroyed by their unconscious-mind's addiction "proving who's boss" by breaking the life it inhabited, rather than tolerating the person living in that life to live, has proven just what unconscious-mind is capable of.

( I'm saying that as a guy who's racked-up 7+ years as a homeless person, who's seen what drugs do to lives, & who's dug into unconscious-mind's malevolence in a war to break my entire Eternity from its control/dominion: war's war, & it'll murder me, & anyone whose life it rules, rather than tolerate us removing our lives from unconsciousness's rule )


See the difference between Trump's unconscious-mind, which HAS strategy, you can see the progression from when he was young to now, & it's consistently in the same direction, always-escalating, vs his SurfaceMind, which is chaotic, unmanaged, uncontrolled, & too random to reliably-predict.

See it with Putin, too..

& also understand that as they get older, they have less to lose, so therefore competitive-nihilism becomes more-valid, more "victory" to them..

Same as competitive-nihilism is "victory" who have been pushed far enough ( I'm including both kami-kaze pilots & submarine-torpedo pilots, some Islamist murdercide-bombers, mass-shooters, etc, in competitive-nihilism, aka Negative-Sum game )


Have the integrity to do TRUE science, & don't let ANY ideology hold the position that it is "the ONLY valid victim", especially when it is genociding people wholesale, as we speak.

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6669/Euro-Med-Monitor:-Israel%E2%80%99s-brutality-in-Gaza-surpasses-all-recent-forms-of-terrorism

Until the study is done to discover what the predictor of motivation for genociding Palestinians is, it's propaganda, not true-Science.

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[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

A hagfish with prosthetic limbs & a condo?

: p

[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

The paper, itself, includes that link, in its refs, btw..

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[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

TTBOMK, beekeepers feed bees sugar-syrup during the winter, to get them through, & to top-up their diet, so they produce more honey,

& feed them pollen in the spring ( activates swarming in them, so they have to be careful with that ).

Bees naturally get 1st-pollen from conifer trees, not flowers, from what I've seen, which would have a drastically different chemical-profile, so terpenes may be a meaningful antiviral for them, that they aren't getting in the syrup-supplement, making them more prone to colony-collapse-disorder ( I've read that ALL colony-collapse-disorder bees are infected with both a virus & a fungus, don't remember which, & that NONE of the still-healthy hives in that research had both those 2 items )

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[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

That author of chemistry books, something like Joe Schwarz, was torpedoing the "alkaline diet", where he pointed-out that nearly every chemistry in one's body is buffered, to keep the pH the same .. except urine.

He identified that acidic urine produces 1 set of kinds-of-stones, & alkaline urine produces a different set of kinds-of-stones, & that if one wants to reduce kidney-stones, it is best to produce pH-neutral urine, through the same kind of diet-manipulations that the alkaline-diet people use, or avoid, but with different intent.

I hope you get free from all abusive medical-conditions, as living is better without 'em.

IF doing the experiment produces helpful results, THEN good, eh?


Salut, Namaste, & Kaizen.

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[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

I'd read, years ago, in the science news-headlines sites, that someone had cracked Colony Collapse Disorder:

They'd said that in ALL the hives which didn't have CCD, there was never the coincidence of both a specific virus and a specific fungus, infecting them.

They'd said that in all the hives which did have CCD, both that specific virus & that specific fungus were in-play.

Apparently, to them, the infection of both of those specific-pathogens, meant that their immune-systems were defeated, & everything else got them, then.


Since I can't find that article, here's a different article which identifies some specific pathogen, which I hope includes both the specific-virus & specific-fungus that the other researchers had found to be the culprit:

https://beeprofessor.com/colony-collapse-disorder/

[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Alkanes, from the possible breakdown of fatty-acids, in distant past..

To me, the question then becomes .. is there any nonbiological-method for Mars to have produced those molecules?

IF so, THEN .. probably that's how they got there..

but without knowing the answer to that question..

it isn't decided, is it?

[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Kinds-Smart-Identifying-Intelligences/dp/0452281377/

identified many years ago that our definition of "intelligence" is far-too-narrow, & anybody who's read it, can understand why I say the evidence is thiat the orginal definition of "intelligence" was intended to lock-out all kinds of intelligence that male academics were not good at..

( 1 example, right from that book, is .. it usually is possible to find 1 girl in a grade-school-class who can identify who's friends with whom, who's enemies with whom, and why, having all that stuff mapped-out in her head..

I'm autistic.

I can't even manage to be anybody's present-friend, more than a few minutes per year?

Been a few years since I had friends..

What any such girl is demonstrating absolutely is an intelligence!

Denigrated by male "authorities", of course, as is to be expected..

Gender-prejudice taints all our world, doesn't it?

Lipman's "That's what SHE said!" backs this..

https://www.amazon.com/Thats-What-She-Said-Together-ebook/dp/B0716GZT1P/ )

( obviously, these aren't "affiliate" links )


Another item, though, music isn't an intelligence, it is a whole set of intelligences:

  • Rhythm
  • Harmony
  • Melody
  • Improv/Jazz
  • Composition
  • Polyrhythm..

& I rather suspect that ALL intelligences are fractal, like that..


Nick Lane's Royal Institution Talk, on yt, also indicates that the "atom" of awareness may be mitochondria ( since jamming them jams our awareness, as the anaesthetic xenon, iirc, demonstrates )

https://nick-lane.net/media/how-the-krebs-cycle-powers-life-and-death/

[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Gottman published, many years ago, that contempt is the primary not-survivable factor in a relationship.

So, this is "rediscovering the wheel", then..

[–] Paragone@mander.xyz -1 points 2 years ago

Researchers Logan, King, & Fischer-Wright, discovered that there are 5 social-process levels ( they misidentify as "stages", but caterpillar-moth is stages, & reversible modes are not irreversible, as stages are ),, & that conspiricism is produced in level2.

They published a popular book, in order to get the core of their research into the understanding of people in organizations, where it could do the most good.

  • Level5 - LIVING IS SELF-INHERENTLY AWESOME!!

  • Level4 - WE are awesome, THEY are what we are competing against.

  • Level3 - Narcissism-culture. Doctors are the exemplars of it. It took me until my mid-50's to realize that raised-by-medical-professionals syndrome IS raised-by-narcissists syndrome, even though I'd read a book identifying the entire pattern of damage in the children of such, back in the 1980's ( sometimes I'm not quick ). Dad was a medical-researcher & a doctor. That insight is spot on. You want 2 independent proofs? 1. dress professionally well, a quality suit, & walk into any 4 hospitals ( averaging the results ), & count the percentage of lower-level people, including cleaning-staff, who are upright & meeting your gaze as equally-valid humans. None is likely to be the percentage: their validity has been disallowed/negated by medical-culture. 2. record video in clinics/hospitals, in the hallways, of people interacting, leaving-out any audio: video-only, & record it so it plays-back in slow-motion. When you watch it in slow-motion, because your unconscious won't be automatically-hiding the class-establishing bodylanguage, due to the wrong-speed, you should be able to see the narcissism body-language screaming from doctors. The 1st time I became conscious of it, it was stunning, and my having never seen it, in decades, .. shaming.

  • Level2 - Subject-to-narcissism's-dominion culture. Conspiricism breeds in this level.

  • Level1 - gangs/inmates/nihilism culture. Mass shootings. Manufactured into inmates, manufactured into gang-members, etc. This has the motivation & the leverage to butcher the whole of the rest. Notice that there were over 600 mass-shootings in the US in 2023, and that homelessness is skyrocketing, simultaneously.. That isn't "mere coincidence". Given the political-dominion "solutions" being enacted there, the percentage of the population in Level1 is going to be significantly increasing, with all the consequences of that.

Those who are helplessly subjugated beneath narcissism's dominion, are likely to become conspiricist, exactly as Logan, King, & Fischer-Wright identified.

Actually, it's natural.

IF prohibited from being validly-human, THEN become some other kind of validity, ( "displacement" is it called, in psychology? ), and being "the conspiricist who gets information 1st" is a kind of validity that can exist in the level beneath narcissism's dominion.

Since validity's a basic & fundamental unconscious-mind need, .. this is going to happen.

Consistently.

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