Perspectivist

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[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk -4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

“Understanding requires awareness” isn’t some settled fact - it’s just something you’ve asserted. There’s plenty of debate around what understanding even is, especially in AI, and awareness or consciousness is not a prerequisite in most definitions. Systems can model, translate, infer, and apply concepts without being “aware” of anything - just like humans often do things without conscious thought.

You don’t need to be self-aware to understand that a sentence is grammatically incorrect or that one molecule binds better than another. It’s fine to critique the hype around AI - a lot of it is overblown - but slipping in homemade definitions like that just muddies the waters.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The issue here is that machine learning also falls under the umbrella of AI.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk -5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So… not intelligent.

But they are intelligent - just not in the way people tend to think.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with avoiding certain terminology, but I’d caution against deliberately using incorrect terms, because that only opens the door to more confusion. It might help when explaining something one-on-one in private, but in an online discussion with a broad audience, you should be precise with your choice of words. Otherwise, you end up with what looks like disagreement, when in reality it’s just people talking past each other - using the same terms but with completely different interpretations.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Both that and LLMs fall under the umbrella of machine learning, but they branch in different directions. LLMs are optimized for generating language, while the systems used in drug discovery focus on pattern recognition, prediction, and simulations. Same foundation - different tools for different jobs.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It’s certainly not any task, that’d be AGI.

Any individual task I mean. Not every task.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you’re talking about LLMs, then you’re judging the tool by the wrong metric. They’re not designed to solve problems or pass captchas - they’re designed to generate coherent, natural-sounding text. That’s the task they’re trained for, and that’s where their narrow intelligence lies.

The fact that people expect factual accuracy or problem-solving ability is a mismatch between expectations and design - not a failure of the system itself. You're blaming the hammer for not turning screws.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Consciousness - or “self-awareness” - has never been a requirement for something to qualify as artificial intelligence. It’s an important topic about AI, sure, but it’s a separate discussion entirely. You don’t need self-awareness to solve problems, learn patterns, or outperform humans at specific tasks - and that’s what intelligence, in this context, actually means.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

In computer science, the term AI at its simplest just refers to a system capable of performing any cognitive task typically done by humans.

That said, you’re right in the sense that when people say “AI” these days, they almost always mean generative AI - not AI in the broader sense.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You’re describing intelligence more like a soul than a system - something that must question, create, and will things into existence. But that’s a human ideal, not a scientific definition. In practice, intelligence is the ability to solve problems, generalize across contexts, and adapt to novel inputs. LLMs and chess engines both do that - they just do it without a sense of self.

A calculator doesn’t qualify because it runs "fixed code" with no learning or generalization. There's no flexibility to it. It can't adapt.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

People should really be more specific when they're speaking of AI. I'm assuming you mean generative AI in the form of video clips.

Sure, why not? We've pretty much accepted awful CGI effects as the norm already. I hardly see AI generated effects as any worse than that. It's entirely possible that those effects could even be better.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago

Just a reminder that pedophile is not synonymous with child rapist.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We Finns tend to be leery of Russians by default, given our history with them. Everyone gets a fair chance from me - but the moment someone confirms the stereotype, I can’t help but think, this is why you have the reputation you do.

Wearing a jacket like that while there’s a hot war happening just 1,000 kilometers from our border shows poor judgment at best - and at worst, it signals support for that war.

If you want to accuse me of being biased against Russians - well, damn right I am.

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