Redcuban1959
joined 4 years ago
: "Look, Pim, I know it's our job to help this guy and everything, but I think this guy is a lost cause. He has obviously made up his mind. Why don't we just cut our losses and get out of here?"
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I think they expected to arrest him or for him to run away. They expected that the entire thing would be really quick, but the reinforcements failed to organize quick enough. By the time they were arriving near La Paz, the police was already there.
Aftermath of the Coup Attempt in Bolivia:
On the evening of 26 June, Bolivian police arrested General Zúñiga. Vice Admiral Juan Arnez Salvador, former Commander General of the Armed Forces, was also detained. Zúñiga and Arnez face charges including armed uprising, assault against the president, destruction of public property, and other crimes. On 27 June, authorities presented 17 individuals accused of involvement in the coup attempt. One of the suspects, Aníbal Aguilar Gómez, denied the charges and went on a hunger strike.
Why did the coup fail?
From what I saw and was said. General Zuniga had planned on this coup for an entire month. But he decided to act before his allies could organize better. One day after he was purged from the Army, he decided to go with his unit to do the coup while he waited for his allies inside the army and airforce.
The problem is that he didn't expect for Luis Arce to resist and refuse to exit the palace. Not only that, Luis Arce began confronting him and calling on his supporters to help the goverment. Also, the entire left, even Evo Morales, who has become a rival of Luis Arce, decided to put their differences aside to stop the coup. The Police and Airfoce also remained loyal, which was going to make the success of the coup difficult.
And what really killed the coup, the reinforcements of General Zuniga were unprepared. They were reported en route to La Paz to help the Coup Leaders. But in the middle of the road they were stopped by the Police and Demonstrators. They saw that the coup was going bad and gave up, returning to the Military Bases.
Really suspecious reactions from the US and Argentina:
While every single country in Latin America, EU and Iran and China quickly condemn the coup. Argentina remained silent until the coup was over. The US in the other hand said they were "Observing the situation". This coup is happening after Bolivia nationalized most of their lithium production, and after they joined Mercosur and accepted the invitation to BRICS+.
A quick remind how Argentina and Brazil were really important in the success of the 2019 coup. Argentina literally sent out guns and ammo to the Bolivian Police to guarantee the coup was successful.
Does this mean MAS, which was split between the Evoistas (Demsoc) and Arcistas (Socdem) are united now?
No, but it shows they are willing to work with each other if theres need for that. And that means theres hope.
: Fine, I'll make my own debate!
The coup in Turkey happened really close to the coup in Brazil. Erdogan, despiste being a conservative, was really close with President Dilma (she is a socdem, member of the Workers' Party). He informed her that the US was going to use Lawfare against her and Lula, because they were doing something similar in Turkey. Erdogan ended up removing a bunch of judges after the Military tries to remove him from power.
iirc, Evo is more "radical" he is a self-proclaimed democratic socialist. Meanwhile, Luis Arce is more of a Social Democrat, more like Lula da Silva. Some people say this is about ego, that Evo just wants to be President again because he knows he can do better than people inside his own party. While Arce is more of to the right of the party.
I do believe Evo is much more popular than Luis Arce, but Arce also has his own supporters and seem to want to make a goverment with little influence from Evo, so it's not a repeat of the situation with Argentine president Alberto Fernandez and his VP, Cristina Kirchner. Who basically influenced the entire goverment.
The thing is, the right really, like really fucking hates Evo Morales. Why? He fixed the economy (Arce was his financy minister), gave many rights to the natives and changed the entire country constitution to grant rights to minorities. And he also added a new flag to be used with the Bolivian flag.
The Bolivian Elite hates Evo because now they can't sell the country's resources for the West while using the army to oppress the peasant class with help of the DEA. I do believe both Evo and Luis Arce are good presidents, but this split was really bad for the party. But who knows now. Evo supported Arce doring this coup, maybe they will make peace again with eachother.
Lula da Silva will visit Bolivia next week, to meet with Luis Arce and talk about BRICS and Mercosur.
Bolivia nationalize basically all of their lithium recently, they were going to join Mercosur (Brazil's South American Economic Bloc) and Lucho purged the army. Really interesting how the US didn't condemn this coup. 
The worm