Shadowbait

joined 2 years ago
 

Since this community is going away and at least one other person sounded interested in a Discord server, I've gone ahead and created one:

https://discord.gg/CsGN9zzC

I've created channels for synthesizers and music production so far, but I'm very open to adding other channels depending on interest. If this doesn't get any traction in the next week or so it will probably be abandoned, so please drop in soon if you're at all interested.

(I'm "Thoughtquake" on Discord.)

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 2 points 2 years ago

I created a server. I haven't done much setup yet, but if anyone wants to join: https://discord.gg/CsGN9zzC

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Just a thought - we could start a Discord server. It's not really the same kind of medium, but could still have channels for different topics (music production, synthesizers, etc.) and much easier to maintain I think.

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

It was nice while it lasted, thanks for all the effort you put in!

So, where are you going next? There are at least a few sizeable synth forums out there, and it might be nice if most of us migrated to the same place. I've been back on Reddit a bit, but not sure I want to continue that.

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 2 points 2 years ago

I know what you mean about that intense youtuber vibe. I think it's something that developed gradually over time and you might enjoy his older videos more. I've actually mostly stopped watching his new stuff.

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
  1. I started improv singing when I was a small child, did school chorus for a several years, then got sick of blending into the group. I wanted to make my own music with the focus on my voice, so I started experimenting with recording and layering things. That was about 20 years ago. I haven't been at all consistent about it - sometimes I'd go for months without working on music at all. Then there was one year I made a finished song every month and some of it was the best I ever made.

  2. I listen to lots of genres, but most often some form of electronic - downtempo, synthpop, modern EDM, etc. I tend to favor music with atmospheric layers and a hint of mystery, but different moods call for different kinds of music. What I make is hard to classify, but definitely still some form of electronic.

  3. Artists: Pair of Arrows, Rufus du Sol, Metric, Robyn, Zhu... if I try to describe why I love them I'll be typing way too long so I'll just leave this one for now.

  4. I learned a lot of synth basics from Sonic State's reviews - often with detailed demonstrations feature by feature, sometimes with tips on how/why you might use that feature. Some channels for more general music composition and production stuff: James Nathan Jones, Venus Theory, Benn Jordan, Andrew Huang

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've got them too, and they're definitely not up to the quality of other studio headphones I've used. Still, I'd use them a lot more if they weren't just a little bit annoying to turn on and off. Having to hold the power button for different amounts of time for the headband vs the transmitter always throws me off.

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 3 points 2 years ago

I work mostly by improvising until I find something I like, and then refining it from there. It may help to focus on just the chords first - find the next chord that feels "right" after the A section, and then what feels right after that, and so on. Once you have a chord progression, try to figure out a melody that fits on top of it.

Sometimes it helps to have a story or subject in mind - what do the A and B sections represent? I.e. if it's about triumphing over struggle, the A section might represent the struggle and the B section might represent the triumph. Then you have specific feelings you're trying to convey with each, to help guide you. The listener might never know what it's about, but knowing it yourself can help focus your creativity.

When I get stuck, sometimes I go back through old unfinished projects to look for something that feels similar to what I'm working on now, and repurpose those old melodies and chord progressions, usually with some changes to fit the new piece better.

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

First off, instead of one loop I try to have two main loops/themes/ideas that I alternate between, often called A and B sections. Think of it like the verse and chorus in a pop or rock song - usually different melodies and chord progressions, but they need to feel like one follows logically from the other. I'll also usually have a "bridge" section - something different that only happens once.

Each time I repeat the A or B section, I try to change it up a bit. One strategy I'm trying lately is to use different synth sounds for each repetition, and then make subtle changes to better fit the new sound. I.e. I might change from short staccato notes to more sustained notes, but following the same general up and down path.

Adding or changing harmonies is another good strategy. For a dramatic shift, change the key from minor to major, or maybe just transpose everything up by a fifth. There are more advanced techniques for reharmonizing that I don't understand well enough to describe.

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 2 points 2 years ago

I use it as a master effect to improve my final mix. I don't fully understand how it works, but it basically increases clarity while reducing harshness.

[–] Shadowbait@waveform.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'm mostly a hardware guy but I do use a few plugins:

  • Omnisphere (Spectrasonics)
  • Super VHS (Baby Audio)
  • Raum (Native Instruments)
  • Gulfoss (Soundtheory)
 

I think one of the things that helped keep r/synthesizers active was the automatic creation of weekly threads like "Friday Hangout", where you could leave casual thoughts that might not feel worthy of a top-level post. So, why not try something similar here?

Consider this a trial run. If people like it, maybe we'll make it a weekly thing. I welcome suggestions for a better title.

 

I have a bit of a hardware synth addiction and spend way too much time talking about them... but we're trying to get a new community started so I felt the urge to jump in and talk about them some more.

The two Nords are my favorites. The Wave 2 is great for beautiful layered soundscapes, while the Lead 4 can quickly go into unusual and striking FM sounds. I love both for how easy it is to dial in performance controls affecting as many parameters as you want in different amounts.

In the middle between them, I'm experimenting with Nina. It has so much potential and so many clever ideas, but first impressions were not good with buggy firmware. I had to put it aside to actually get work done, but I'm about to give it another chance. I'll probably be posting more about it later.

I only keep 3 synths fully connected and ready to use at a time, mostly because I don't want to buy an audio interface with more inputs right now, but it also reduces option paralysis a bit. Everything to the right is basically on standby to be swapped out with the 3 on the left from time to time.

The Prophet 12 probably gets the most use out of everything on the right. It's quirky and a little hard to find interesting sweet spots, but the few good sounds I've made on it (and even a few factory presets) keep me coming back. It's probably the most unique-sounding synth I own.

The Peak is my go-to for anything I can't do on the Nords, if I'm not specifically looking for the unusual character of the Prophet 12. It's deep/flexible enough for most things I'd want to do, without being too menu divey. I really want to upgrade to a Summit some day.

The Modwave is the deepest synth I own, but I kind of hate the interface. Some basic things like unison are buried several pages deep in menu, and it's the only synth here I don't feel like I fully understand yet. I'll have to find time to reread the manual again soon.

The SH-4D is the newest addition, and I've got mixed feelings about it. Multi-purpose buttons make it really easy to accidentally lose work, the mod matrix is missing a lot of destinations I hoped for, and "D-Motion" is probably the most pointless feature I've ever seen on a synth. Who in the world actually wants to pick up a synth and tilt it in the air while cables are hanging off it during a performance? However, it's pretty easy to dial in some really solid bass and pad sounds, and the drum kits are pretty good too.

I saved the Korg Prologue for last because I'm probably going to sell it. It's a pleasure to use and sounds great, but it's pretty limited without 3rd party oscillators and I haven't had a lot of luck with those so far. I also don't like waiting for warm up and tuning when every other synth I own is ready to go in seconds.

Aaand I probably spent way too long rambling about all those, but I hope it was interesting to someone.