andymouse

I suppose our second worst problem will be ourselves, reacting in our various ways to that worst problem.

I think you miss the point of history and cultural legacies.

I'm not making the argument that genocidal violence is in the genetic markup of white folks.

White folks is broadly speaking "European-descended people".

I think this group of people is... Special in this regard. Most likely due to infighting and a long history of savagery - not due to their DNA!

So... Other peoples won't necessarily have this brutal background, and so would not necessarily have done what white folks did.

I think owning up to the uniqueness of what it means to be white, or European-descendant, is an interesting project. And that project should not be tossed aside by some rationalisation that, incidentally, is terribly convenient for.. white folks.

The argument I'm making is not that the cops should pick you up if you don't vote..

The argument I'm making is that politicians should not have full power if people don't vote.

I would never buy a Tesla and, despite my best efforts not to, I immediately despise anyone I find out owns one. Even friends just a bit.

The non-voters had nothing to do with this. They literally did not participate.

Any real democracy would count the non-voters as part of the results. 20M not voting? OK then, any policies that affect everyone can no longer be enacted. No new laws. No new wars. Government can then maintain plumbing and provide public services, that's it.

Why isn't that the case? Why is it not a requirement for people to vote for government to have power?

Democracy...? Sure. Whatever hope you need to feel, friend, see you in the streets I hope.

I think we can pick one story and show one thing, and then another one to show another thing. Or hell, pick the first one again to say something different than the first time.

History is a malleable thing, and what you base your argument on is a version of it, not sure it's the truth.

But the gist of what you are saying is that any people would have done what White folks did. Just give them time.

You know, I don't believe that. White folks were exceptionally OK with genocide, we always have been. Intergenerational traum, I guess, from the millenias of tragedy of the Continent.

To presume that our white trajectory is the necessary trajectory for ALL PEOPLES, because 'ecology' (which is a scholarly discipline defined by who, may I ask) is.... BONKERS.

I'm sorry, I am sure you are bright and you seem well-read and intelligent but the idea you propose as an infallibility for all humans is completely and utterly bonkers.

Thank you. Wow. I was basing that on something I saw or thought I saw in Cosmos (the 1980s version with Carl Sagan). Perhaps I was stoned when watching it. There is little better than to watch one of the Cosmos series while stoned - or the autotuned versions by Melodysheep (on YouTube).

For anyone who wants a quicker read on the above: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_greenhouse_effect

I shall have to revise my world view now. 🤯🤯🤯 Wow. I feel optimistic.

Tardigrades - they will likely survive then. And cockroaches, and other life. So even if we all + most animals die out, we will be like the dinosaurs, and life may indeed bounce back.

I mean... A shadow has been lifted from my soul.

Goddamn. I know it seems like I am joking but I am not.

Good news.

Nah this is BS. Russian military bloggers don't need Telegram, they write on some website called New York Times.

Yes... and what good it did everyone to reduce the distance of objects... Sometimes distance is good. Gives me time to think about why I'm really going there in the first place.

Yay humans.

Actually there is a serious risk that Earth turns into Venus. Perpetually self-reinforcing green house effect. All life on Earth, fried, for all eternity.

Edit: Well, until the sun blows.

FTP?