flossdaily

joined 2 years ago
[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes. But it is objective reality.

And the rest of the world would be doing the Palestinians an enormous favor of they told them that in no uncertain terms.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It matters because Palestinians have zero leverage. Their choice is either make peace and build a future, or keep fighting a losing battle, and ensure that their children never have a chance.

Israel can wait.

Israel is thriving.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If they are truly so cut off from water that someone dies of thirst, you'll definitely have a good point. But if this is a short term tactic that gives them a tactical edge over Hamas, that's a different story.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

KILLING civilians happens in every war, no matter how just.

The issue is who is being TARGETED.

Hamas targets civilians. Israel targets Hamas.

Hamas hides among civilians, to use them as human shields.

So when Israel targets Hamas, of course civilians are going to die. That's on Hamas's hands as well.

If each faction had the ability to only kill exactly who they wanted, Israel would be killing only militants, and Hamas would still be killing children.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It IS fucked up. It's also true.

Palestinian refugees have been involved in political violence or rebellion many places, and that's why you don't see them opening their doors anymore. Here's a couple:

Jordan:

  • In 1970, during a period known as Black September, King Hussein of Jordan moved to suppress the autonomy of Palestinian organizations, particularly the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), in an effort to restore his monarchy's rule over the country. This led to armed conflict which lasted until July 1971, resulting in the expulsion of the PLO and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon. The violence during this period resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people, the vast majority of whom were Palestinians .

Lebanon:

  • After being expelled from Jordan, the PLO resettled in Lebanon and began to extend de facto autonomous rule from there, staging raids into Israel. The presence and activities of the PLO were major factors for the sectarian destabilization of Lebanon, contributing to the eruption of the Lebanese Civil War in 1975. This continued with various conflicts and Israeli interventions in Lebanon until the PLO agreed to withdraw in 1982 following an Israeli invasion .
[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Hamas's well-documented use of its own civilians as human shields, as well as its use of mosques, hospitals, schools and private homes as weapons storage facilities and firing platforms, violates international humanitarian law.

https://www.jns.org/hamas-again-using-human-shields-in-gaza/#:~:text=Hamas's%20well%2Ddocumented%20use%20of,Source%3A%20IDF%20International%20Cooperation%20Division.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hamas won 74 out of 132 seats. They did it with 44 percent of the vote. Not sure how that worked.

Anyway, you're kind of right, kind of wrong.

view more: next ›