iglou

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[–] iglou@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not every system fits every country.

France had republics before the current 5th that had the president as more of a ceremonial role. But it did not work for us, and both the third and fourth republics ended up with political instability and governments falling one after the other.

The 5th republic purposefully gave more power to the president, to remediate the political instability that France had seen with the previous systems. It works.

No democratic system is perfect. The one Greece has, per your comment, sounds great in theory. But the day where the 3 top parties can't come to an agreement, and the elections don't change the outcome, you'll have an extended period of instability where the government is unable to do anything. And that is absolutely awful for a country.

It is great that Greece isn't encountering these issues. But France has, and the current system is a fix to that. Let's not repeat bad History by reverting to a system we know does not work for us.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

No, it works because we actually burn shit to the ground when the government doesn't capitulate. And that's not an ability only french genes have.

It's up to you to make sure your protests have an effect.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

No, it's by design. Giving the government to the largest group doesn't always make sense.

If your largest group is 40%, but the other groups forming the remaining 60% all disagree with the largest group, how is it more democratic to give the 40% group the government? Then you have a givernment that only 40% of the parliament supports.

If you pick a government that satisfies the 60% remaining, you then have a government 60% of the parliament supports. How is that less democratic?

[–] iglou@programming.dev 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

It's more complicated than that. Don't get me wrong, I voted for the left block and was pissed they didn't get to form a government. But it is more complicated than that.

The president has to pick a government that will be able to pass laws with the vote of the parliament. While the left block had the plurality, the rest of the parliament would likely not have voted their policies. Picking a government that would satisfy the rest of the parliament was the best move for stability and to have a government able to do something.

That's not anti democratic. And that's actually the system that is used in most representative democracies, in different forms, which always summarises to: Head of state picks a government that has the most chances to be accepted by the parliament.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

Yep. Lack of education and pacifying Americans by making them believe that stuff like protests and unions are against their interests. Sad.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Wrong. Just look at your own history...

  • Rosa Parks.
  • MLK.
  • Vietnam war protests.

To only quote the ones off the top of my head. I'd expect an American to remember these better than me.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It works anywhere people in power can be inconvenienced. The US is no different.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (13 children)

It does, eventually. Else we frenchies would have stopped doing it a long time ago :)

[–] iglou@programming.dev 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (15 children)

Protests aren't magic things. Especially when the stakes are so high, the government isn't going to just cave in with one protest, no matter how "productive". They need to happen again, and again, and again, to the point where it actually inconveniences them.

Take it from a french.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

If history had been allowed to witness the two (not to mention Himmler) truly brought to justice on a world stage, could it have potentially decreased the chances others would feel emboldened enough to follow in their footsteps?

I highly doubt it. Power thirsty assholes won't be stopped so easily.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can it be considered living if it has no desire?

[–] iglou@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

I'll add "how expensive" to the list. Sometimes you'll have to burn through devices.

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