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EU was probably hoping the US would pull its head out of its ass.

Hartis was not the best option we had. Thats a classic logical fallacy.

Lets get a few things straight from the get go: idgaf about you. I idgaf if you're upset with my language choice. And i certainly dgaf what your political ideology is.

You wrote a lot of nonsense to basically say:

My logic is infallible despite empirical results demonstrating that my logical reasoning is incorrect.

Whatever Spock 🖖, Im condensing to you morons because you keep making the same mistakes repeatedly and it results in the fucking outcome you're experiencing right now with trump.

Trying to make the argument that a genocidal candidate is electable to a anti war, pro human rights, anti death penalty population is fucking hilarious. It doesnt matter what fucking window dressings you slap onto your argument, aka lesser evil stupidity, its still fucking hilariously delusional. Its basically the same as trying to make the argument 0+0 = 7. Here is the venn diagram of the two positions: ( . ) ( . ). Oooh your results are boobs! But sadly no overlap. Which is what you need for votes.

Never mind all her other issues w/ respect to the economic problems of the middle class. Also results in ( . ) ( . ) btw. See the pattern here? Vance at least can make omelets, at least according to his ad. ( ( ) ). No boobs sadly from that ad though :(. I wonder if trump got any votes for vance's lip service to middle class issues?

Economically trump is doing exactly what his base wants with tarrifs. It doesnt matter if you think hes doing the wrong thing. You're not his base. You werent going to vote for him anyways. ( ( ) ). Fuck another goatse for trump. Dudes on a roll. Grabbing votes everywhere.

Harris' (as a proxy for all you idiots) problem is she didnt do what her base wants. It doesn't matter if you think she is better than the arbitrary position that trump is. The people harris needed the votes from werent going to vote for trump. Nor would they vote for bush. And yet we saw her parading around with cheney and promising to choose a fucking Republican cabinet member. Fucking ( . ) ( . ) again. God damnit normally i love having this amount of boobs around.

So yeah you morons lost the election willfully and stupidly by even giving credence to the idea that harris was ever fucking electable. She had a window of about 3 weeks in August were she could have but she burned it basically out of the door by fucking over Muslim Americans, shitting on the middle class with her policy platform and then basically spent September and October pouring gasoline onto the fucking fire she and biden started.

People dont care about your partisan nonsense. Its what you put forward as your platform. And sadly when you put forward a platform of we dont give a shit about anyone's suffering its unsurprising those suffering didnt bother showing up. ( . ) ( . ), remember?

You are the reason the democratic party's approval rating is historically low, not the people who didnt show up for harris.

So if you want to stop being condescended to then you might want to start by shutting the fuck up for a change.

Go fuck cheney or something to keep yourself occupied idgaf as long as I dont have to deal with your inane prattle on how your voting strategy of the lesser evil was in any way rational.

Let me make it simple for you, harris being less shitty of a candidate wouldnt have changed your (lesser evil, ( . ) ( . ), trump < you/harris < others) vote but it certainly would have changed the vote for others (no support for a genocide, pro working class, ( ( ) ) ). Amazing how being Inclusive seems to be a winning strategy in a winner takes all system.

Unless of course you're pro genocide or corporate greed. Then you're just a shit stain like harris at which point: ( . ) ( . ). Q. E. D.

Otherwise, your problem isnt with me, or the people who didnt show up. Its with harris and the dnc. And I direct you to their current behavior regarding hogg.

Every metric that has come out of the last cycle demonstrates that you were wrong.

Welcome to reality. Enjoy hitting the rocks (your list of issues w/ trumps behavior) on the way down.

it depends on the sector; there are critical components to our advance technologies we're 100% dependent on other countries for. robotics in particular is absolutely fucked for the computing components they need and low cost electronics. both problems are easily resolved by building highly automated factories in the US to produce them.

GDP wasn't part of my analysis. the issue is we've over fitted and are dependent on a number of outside partners and a absolutely fucked middle class. No one cares if its a shrinking portion of total GDP. Farming is also a shrinking share while simultaneously increasing in output.

the problems are that when you encounter disagreements with remote nations you cant compensate for the friction quickly because you literally outsourced all the labor and knowledge to the entity you're now in a disagreement with.

What should be happening is nation require %age of critical manufacturing be required 100% manufactured within their own borders ensuring a maintained skill set and worker base that can be grown if needed without causing giant increases in overall costs.

TMSC is a great of example of the problem. even when we tried to force them to manufacture a percentage in the states it took years to spin up a single foundry. Same issue is happening when companies try to out source software/engineering development. Those skills are hard to replace unless they're actively being developed and practiced.

Manufacturing related jobs can and will come back, we just need to make a concentrated effort to do so without making it an all or nothing proposition.

What we should be doing is placing high taxes on companies like apple/microsoft/google/aws that is deferred for the next few years to meet certain manufacturing goals and if they do get there and maintain the ratio then they dont have to pay those taxes. If they dont then they have to pay the back taxes + high and higher taxes each year they dont meet them.

its really not. 'its happens to every developed country!' is an intellectual cop out. first off: if it was inevitable that any developed country will stop manufacturing, then by definition eventually no country will have manufacturing or some countries are prevented from developing in order to maintain a manufacturing base. The former is impossible and the latter is a morally bankrupt position.

the reason manufacturing has declined is because western societies have over fitted for cheap goods and a decaying economic base. there are other ways than tarriffs to resolve the problem but they all end up as a tax that needs to be paid.

There are broader impacts than just middle class issues; there is a lack of local resources and familiarity that prevent confluences of ideas/know how across domains.

the cold hard truth is western societies need to bring a much larger and broader fraction of their consumption in house in order to maintain a reliable and robust economy.

Id upboat this but that might be used as evidence of libel.

😂 oh child, would you put in effort to help a toxic assbag just because some other toxic assbag is worse?

The answer is no. You wouldnt. Its the same deal in politics. You need people to expend effort on your behalf to vote for you. And if you dont give them positive reasons to do so they wont show up for you.

This was harris', clintons, bidens, and the dncs mistake. And they'll continue to behave in this manner unless they're shown repeatedly that they will loose elections for doing it.

You dont have to like it. But you have to accept the reality for what it is. People like me wont show up for candidates who are not pro middle class, pro corporations, or genocidal in any form.

No amount of moaning about trump will change that.

Enjoy the next four years we'll see if you twits learn anything the next two election cycles but i doubt it. I expect to see that same 'leftists wants dont matter electorally. But you must vote for our shitty candidate!' and I'll just laugh and watch your candidate lose again.

Or you know your party could learn to compromise and not enable a genocide and actually take action of things like health care reform, pro working class economic policies.

Its really not that difficult.

And yet has more backbone than the entire dnc establishment

Dont give them any fucking ideas they're already dumb enough.

I wish harris actually ran on something besides not Trump and continuing a genocide.

Or that democrat politicians develop a single functional vertebrae.

Oh well.

Lol thanks for that, i stopped watching after minute 5.

Im not stuck on anything. Im simply pointing put the fundamental flaw in your understanding. Your just too dense to grasp it.

Bribery of governmental officials is also illegal, and yet an entire industry exists around it.

The video cameras in stores literally contradict your position that its illegal and yet you hold on to the premise.

The fact facebook just added two lines to their ToS and suddenly their 'illegal' behavior was changed to legal demonstrates just how fucking dense you are.

Your issue is you havent yet demonstrated any instances of these laws being upheld in any meaningful manner.

And yet with using grocery stores as a simple example ive entirely dissembled your entire position.

So yes you found a law in a single state, that is entirely ineffectual, doesnt apply to the TSA, and has a 'this law does not apply' workaround bigger than the fucking sun for everyone else.

Good job champ, let me introduce you to your need special needs counselor, I'll leave the rest of your education to them.