That could just as easily mean the profit margins were thin, not necessarily negative. I asked if there was actual confirmation that it's being sold at a loss, because all I could find was speculation, and you gave me speculation.
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I picked the quote that's actually attributed to Gabe. The second link you gave doesn't even have any quotes at all.
It doesn't sound like Valve actually did confirm this, but that some news outlets ran with a rumor.
The only actual quote here is
Price point was secondary and painful. But that was pretty clearly a critical aspect to it.
But Newell didn't actually say it was at a loss, did he? Seems like they're just speculating.
Do you have a source for that? All I can find are conflicting rumors and speculation.
Console manufacturers sell at a loss because they have to sell the hardware first before they can sell anything else. They know they'll get that money back on software you couldn't have bought without the console.
While I'm sure Valve hopes to bring some new customers to Steam this way, I'll bet that the majority of Steam Machines sold will be to users who are already invested in Steam and have an existing library of games to play. If they take a loss on hardware, they can't be certain they're actually making up for it elsewhere.
It's not practical for the Machine to be a loss leader because it's a supplementary product, not one the rest of their business is dependent on.
When I was in high school, the sequel to my favorite game didn't get translated, so I convinced my parents to sign me up for Japanese lessons on the weekend. But I didn't get all that far in it on account of having too much actual schoolwork to keep up with.
Last year I picked it back up again, just for fun, and I'm making a lot more progress using Renshuu than I did in a classroom environment. Earlier this year I bought one volume each of a bunch of different manga series, slowly working through the pile with the help of vocab lists from LearnNatively and Wanikani. So far I've finished Yotsubato, RuriDragon, and Look Back.
Any of the Kirby games with multiplayer. Super Star, Dream Land 3, Return to Dream Land, Star Allies.
Nintendo has a couple of other games where P2 gets to be a helper, intended for younger players and non-gamers. Super Mario Odyssey, Luigi's Mansion 3, Donkey Kong Bananza, Pikmin 3/4.
Says it's not Clinton, refuses to elaborate, leaves.
Are you trying to suggest that Hillary was the best possible candidate we could've chosen?
And both of them were so close that changing any one variable - such as having an actually likeable candidate - would've changed the outcome.
The entire cast of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
This conversation started with you saying you expected Valve to sell the Machine at a loss, me explaining why that's unlikely, followed by you saying the Deck was definitely sold at a loss. You can't backpedal that to near loss now.