tangeli

joined 6 months ago
[–] tangeli@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

Really? You haven't read about the tarrifs yet?

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Proper procedure is to send anyone with a tattoo to El Salvador, if I understand correctly. "In a heartbeat", I think was the essence of due process. It was looked into by Trump and his team and they went ahead with it, so it must be legal. Anyone who doesn't want to be oppressed in the US can just get a tattoo. It seems to work.

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 23 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Maybe other countries should have "reciprocal" detention and deportation of U.S. citizens, until Trump comes begging for a mutual travel agreement.

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 7 points 6 days ago

That's a very sobering perspective. I feel like America has been in a slow collapse since the 1970s and maybe it will be for the next century or two.

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

Long term? Education: a broadly based, liberal education that makes the shared values understood and appreciated by most people, on the basis of good evidence, morality and reason. Without this, if everyone is taught and believes different, conflicting ideas, then there are no shared values to defend. Many organizations are involved but most significant are families, schools, colleges, universities, religious organizations and the media.

Short term? Justice, law and order that balances personal and collective interests. Without this, people will live in fear and desperation with immediate survival concerns being a priority over getting or giving a good education or making any personal sacrifice for the benefit of society. Also, sufficient resources for everyone so that no one is living in desperation and insecurity. This requires, among other things, preventing extremes of inequality of wealth and power. Not the elimination of inequality, but limiting and moderating it so that tyranny and jealous desperation are avoided. Again there are many organizations involved but most significant are the legislatures, courts, police and military.

Transparency and oversight are required for all these organizations, to ensure they are doing what they should, and freedom of thought and communication so that their behaviour, virtues and faults can be discovered, communicated, discussed and controlled. Whistleblowers and protections for them, and the media.

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 28 points 3 months ago (5 children)

People who buy HP products get what they deserve.