techno156

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[–] techno156@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hasn't he almost always been like that? It just helped that it wasn't aimed at users before, but either controversial people, or something that could at least be excused.

His database-editing negative comments talking about him wasn't anything less controversial, or indicative of a thick skin.

It might be less his "saving Reddit", and more Elon Musk and Twitter that might be doing it. He basically proved that as a billionaire CEO, you can waltz in and do whatever you like. Even if it's unpopular, a big platform (like Twitter) isn't going to implode immediately, so he can just squeeze out what money he can, and make out reasonably wealthy (or at least, that's the idea), in spite of user unpopularity. "Saving Reddit" seems more like a flimsy justification.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

In fairness, that's probably more due to the novelty of the disaster, more so than whoever was actually on board.

A refugee boat sinking is a tragedy, but it's also not novel in the eyes of the media (and might be difficult to report on, depending on local laws). It happens with enough regularity that it's considered another tragedy, in much the same way that America doesn't report all their mass shootings (they tend to have one for almost every day of the year), or how the local paper usually doesn't report every robbery and homicide.

The submarine incident is a bit more like a plane crash by comparison, which is rare and novel enough that it's worth reporting on, irrespective of whoever is on board. Particularly with the other facts being dug up, which only added fuel to the fire.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

There's also no centralised Lemmy site/index yet that centralises that information.

That's fine and all if you're looking for content on somewhere like lemmy.ml, or lemmy.world, but you might run into problems if you're trying to search for something that might be located on beehaw, or sh.it.just.works instead, which doesn't have the word "lemmy", and might get skipped.

You also have places like Kbin, which don't get captured in a search at all, both because they're not lemmy, and also because they don't contain the word lemmy, which doesn't help if you're trying to search something that you thought was on Lemmy, but is in fact on a Kbin magazine.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

He thinks we are. I never thought about it before. Maybe in the case of some Reddit subreddits and other forums, but I don't think so in general. I've got a lot great information from forums.

I agree that we're not past the days of forums. Part of what made forums and Reddit great was that you knew that you were interacting with multiple people, and that a lot of information was filtered through some form of consensus. If the advice given was wrong, you usually had additional replies saying it was incorrect, and pointing out what was wrong, or the OP adding more information if asked/incorrect.

You can't really do that as easily with blogs and things, both because it's usually written by one person with presumably little verification (who may have unclear credentials if you're not familiar with them, or that area of work), even before the rise of AI and auto-generated SEO blogs which say nothing useful with a lot of words.

From a usability standpoint, there is also something nice about a forum, since they're usually not that terribly infested with ads, or things like algorithms designed to push content and keep people on the platform. You can just come and go as you please, although necroposting is usually frowned upon. At most, you might have some sorting that keeps the posts in chronological/activity order, but that's about it.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

There's something refreshing about an old forum, where you're not bombarded with advertisements and algorithms, it's just basic forum goodness, sorted according to activity.

It's part of what makes Tumblr still rather nice to use, since it's one of the few modern social media networks that doesn't default to trying to force you into it, or clutter anything and everything with ads (yet), in spite of the site's terrible coding.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can usually get around that with the old compact interface. Clicking links is a bit glitchy after its "retirement" (Reddit "retired" it by stripping .compact from all links, but compact still tries to use them), however, it's still mostly usable, if you put .i at the end of the link.

https://old.reddit.com/r/creesch/comments/14fxzr4/so_long_and_thanks_for_all_the_fish/.i

[–] techno156@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Actually, now that I think about it - is the US military or coast guard even authorized to operate in the Mediterranean? Looks like we have some operating agreements and exercises with Malta but I'm not seeing a lot of readily available hardware that gets deployed there. You're certainly not getting any large scale hardware (cutters, subs, deployment platforms) into the Mediterranean in short order.

I can't imagine that they are, at least, not without first co-ordinating and clearing it with local authorities, and if a country suddenly did that without warning, I can't imagine that the reception (or the imagery) would be particularly positive.

Imagine being Malta, and suddenly the US is beelining a bunch of military hardware your way with neither announcement nor warning. That would probably set off all sorts of warnings.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder how it would look with a kakapo, since that is also a k-bird, and a fairly well-known one at that. (Along with having a friendly-looking face)

[–] techno156@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

The wayback machine/archive.org is probably the safest bet, that isn't going to break any time soon. They currently have an active Reddit archive project going, so it's likely that your post might be captured on the archive (or you'd be contributing to it).

[–] techno156@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Spez is going to get what he wants either way, really. He just wants third-party app activity gone from Reddit, and Apollo moving over to ActivtyPub is just more of the same, even if the app itself is around.

Personally, I think that dropping Apollo might make more sense. It was designed as a Reddit Reader, so instead of cramming new app functionality into it, it would make sense to just split it off into its own app.

A lot of ActivityPub/Lemmy/Kbin features are natively supported, so he wouldn't need to keep paying for things like Imgur API access, unlike with Reddit where third-party image hosting is the only way to do image hosting, without using the official app.

Plus, after the recent shenanigans from everything, he probably deserves a break, for a while, at least.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

If it wasn't for the amount being much higher than most other companies charge, and what it costs Reddit itself to do the same, and a 30-day timeframe with which to get around those changes on top of it, I think that they would have been much better received. The third-party app developers didn't any problems with paying for things like Imgur APIs, and would have happily paid up for Reddit's, if they had the time to implement it, and didn't have to deal with the exorbitant cost.

However, I do think that Spez made things much, much worse. If Reddit didn't make a discussion, and just put out the announcement, people would have shrugged, and moved on. His AMA, and everything else after was just throwing fuel onto the fire, which was further boosted by Reddit admins suddenly wading into the fray, something that they had not done previously, even rom the perspective of moderator tyranny. The previous response tended to always be "we're sorry to hear that, but you can just go and create your own community if you have an issue with them", unless the problem was bad enough it got press attention.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

If it's not already there, it might also be worth raising the issue on the lemmy-ui github, just so the developers can see it, and can add to the list of features to implement. If it's important enough, they can bump it up the list as needed.

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