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A UK-centric Electric Vehicles community, where discussion/news of the wider European continent is welcome.

All discussion of EVs (and hybrids for the moment), charging networks, etc, welcome!

No USA/Americas news unless it is relevant to the UK/Europe - most of the existing EV communities on Lemmy are awash with US discussion, please use one of those. US news and discussion will be removed.

The main "global" EV community is !electricvehicles@slrpnk.net

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You may be aware of Octopus Electroverse which allows you to charge on many UK and European networks through roaming agreements.

I found this article full of Electroverse offers and discounts, some of which I wasn't aware of. I thought it might be nice to post it here and briefly highlight them.

These are the current UK offers:

Discounts

  • Octopus Go customers - 5% off
  • Octopus Intelligent Go customers - 8% off
  • Ionity - 5% off
  • Osprey - 20% off between 7-11pm
  • Be.EV - 10% off between 9pm-7am
  • RAW Charging - 15% off (until 31-Jan-25)
  • Plunge pricing - will be notified when they occur

Other offers

  • Shell Recharge - charge up 5kWh and get a free drink
  • Q-Park - 20% off parking until 31-Dec-24
  • Smart Charge (Sainsbury's) - 4x Nectar Points

There is also a monthly photo competition, and you can refer a friend. I don't normally post this, but my referral code is beige-hero-474 - we share £10 credit if used. Feel free to use it if you want to reward me for my modding and posting. 🙂

If you see anything new post below! I can't promise I'll keep this list up-to-date, but the link always contains the latest offers (except the Sainsbury's one which isn't on there yet but is in the app).

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its all very interesting i think. A chunk of these if not all will be open by 2025, so there’s no real ground to be gained saying theres not enough charging. Id say its pretty much bang on now, barring the further UK reaches above Inverness. In 2 years charging just wont be an issue for anyone.

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If anyone’s interested, this can be very helpful. Please use a browser, the mobile apps don’t show half the data. This is all UK hubs of 5 rapids, up to 32 I think is the record. It’s updated often when they go live.

What I found with zap map, THE BEST APP, is it’s very confusing for new users who can’t work out what it’s telling them. This gets around that issue, it shows you the public access tesla locations (ie not just tesla cars) as they don’t always advertise it, it’s pretty good. It doesn’t show the prices but it’s all contactless payment units apart from tesla and a few others where you’ll need an app to pay.

I’ve found it helps with long trips. Also as it’s quite complex some data might be slightly out of date but if you double check your other apps it will become clear.

Enjoy!

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This is really pretty amazing how poorly designed the Tesla doors are, where if the power fails (like in a crash or a fire), you might need to remove the speaker grill or two separate panels to get to the emergency mechanical door release.

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Hydrogen - it's the future!

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Bit of a clickbait headline - it's actually a Nissan Micra EV based on the R5.

NISSAN has revealed a next-generation budget EV to rival Renault 5 with 248 miles of charge.

The financially-stricken carmaker has partnered with Renault to create an “audacious” spin-off to the R5 while remaining “true to the DNA of its predecessors”.

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Committee warns of serious injustice to disabled motorists and those reliant on public chargers

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Affected roads include vital routes for holidaymakers, including A2 towards Folkestone and parts of A303 and A30

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A poll of more than 8,200 drivers has found widespread support for green signs pointing to public EV charging locations and pricing displays similar to fuel stations.

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This is a GB News article, but it's good to see that reducing the public charging VAT rate will be debated.

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Launches tomorrow...

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Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds is set to confirm the Government will consult on easing rules related to the phasing-out of new petrol and diesel cars, the PA news agency understands.

The Cabinet minister is expected to use a speech to the automotive industry on Tuesday night to announce that changes to flexibilities available to manufacturers as part of the zero-emission vehicles (Zev) mandate will be proposed.

Under the mandate, at least 22% of new cars sold by each manufacturer in the UK this year must be zero-emission, which generally means pure electric.

The threshold will rise annually, including to 28% in 2025.

Under the current rules, the mandate will reach 80% by 2030, but the Government has committed to bring the ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars and vans forward from 2035 to 2030.

Failure to abide by the mandate or make use of flexibilities – such as buying credits from rival companies or making more sales in future years – will result in a requirement to pay the Government £15,000 per polluting car sold above the limits.

The consultation, which will be launched in the coming weeks, is unlikely to propose changes to the mandate’s percentages.

It will include amendments to the options for how non-compliant manufacturers can avoid fines.

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BYD clearly hopes to pitch its vehicles as aspirational. But their real allure is that they are affordable. One model on display, the Dolphin, sells for around £25,000 ($33,000); British car reviewers have called the pricing “attractive” and “impressively low”. What really worries BYD’s Western rivals is that there is plenty of room for prices to fall. In China the Dolphin sells for 99,800 yuan, or just over £10,000. An analysis by Rhodium Group, a consultancy, found that BYD could cut its prices in Europe by 30% and still make the same profit per car that it does in China.

Consumers are gradually cottoning on to the appeal of Chinese EVs. Seeing an Ora, Maxus, MG or BYD marque on the road in Britain still feels noteworthy. On current trends, that won’t be the case for long. Chinese brands now make up around 10% of new EV sales in Britain, up from around 3-4% five years ago (see chart). Those figures, if anything, understate China’s increasing role in the car market because Western brands are also shifting carmarking to China. According to data from Jato Dynamics, an automotive-research firm, 22% of EVs registered in Britain (and 7.5% of all cars) are now made in China.

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Thankfully, Britain’s new Labour government has so far largely leant away from such protectionism. Jonathan Reynolds, the business secretary, said in July that he was not planning to ask the independent Trade Remedies Authority (TRA) to investigate Chinese EVs, a necessary first step towards tariffs. Britain’s own car industry, which can also demand an investigation, has held off, too.

Why the different approach? After all, Labour ran for election on a “securonomics” platform that takes explicit inspiration from President Joe Biden’s economic policies. The main motivation is likely to be fear of retaliatory tariffs. China is a big export market for high-end producers like Rolls-Royce, Jaguar and Bentley, which make up a big chunk of Britain’s car industry. Losing the market for Chinese tycoons would hurt. And China would be unlikely to limit its retaliation to the car industry. Scottish salmon and whisky might be juicy targets; China buys lots of both products and Labour is loth to risk alienating voters north of the border.

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North-east Derbyshire and Redditch, in the West Midlands, are among the worst public “charging deserts” for electric vehicles in Great Britain, according to an analysis that found 9.3m households do not have off-street parking where they could install a charger.

More than three-quarters of households that park their cars on the street do not have a public charger for electric vehicles within a five-minute walk, according to the analysis by the Field Dynamics consultancy.

The number of places to plug in is increasing rapidly, with a 46% growth in the number of public chargers across the UK in the year to July 2023, according to the data company ZapMap. However, regulators are concerned about big areas known as “charging deserts”, particularly outside cities, that are not served adequately by the public network.

The average gap between London’s coverage and the rest of Great Britain is growing, from a 32 percentage point difference in 2020 to a 47 percentage point difference this year. In 38 local authorities, less than 10% of households have parking covered by the public charger network.

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Public battery charging stations for electric vehicles in Great Britain.

Source: https://x.com/au_tom_otive/status/1818217121769267512

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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/17620489

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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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Thoughts? I doubt the base version will be £30k, but I think this looks decent.

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Car manufacturers have called for urgent action to reignite the switch to electric vehicles, after sales figures showed slowing demand among ordinary motorists for battery-powered cars.

While overall UK registrations grew by 1% in April year-on-year to 134,000, the increase was caused by fleet sales, with private buyer sales down by almost 18% on last year.

Manufacturers are alarmed by slowing sales growth in battery electric vehicles, which in the first four months of 2024 have only increased market share by 0.3% from the same period in 2023, to 15.7%, despite the rapid take-up in previous years.

While the industry expects the figure to improve this year, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) said that BEV sales would be below government targets of 22% of all new cars, and called for steps to “re-enthuse” buyers, including tax cuts, incentives and more chargers.>

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The journalist and electric vehicle campaigner Quentin Willson has said he is "staggered" after the Government did not cut VAT for EV charging in the budget.

He explained: "FairCharge is staggered that the Chancellor is prepared to spend £5billion on a fuel duty freeze and continuation of the 5p cut, yet won't spend 125th of that - circa £40million - on cutting the VAT on public EV charging.

"Why wouldn't you support a drive for cleaner air in our towns and cities? Might it have something to do with an election, we wonder."

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cross-posted from: https://feddit.uk/post/7575755

The Mr Bean actor was name-checked in the House of Lords on Tuesday during its environment and climate change committee meeting.

Thinktank Green Alliance gave its views on the main obstacles the government faces in its bid to phase out petrol and diesel cars before 2035, and said a comment piece by the Johnny English star published in June 2023 was damaging to the cause.

The pressure group told peers in a letter that was shared: "One of the most damaging articles was a comment piece written by Rowan Atkinson in The Guardian which has been roundly debunked.

"Unfortunately, fact checks never reach the same breadth of audience as the original false claim, emphasising the need to ensure high editorial standards around the net zero transition."

The 69-year-old actor's piece was headlined: "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped."

Atkinson wrote that EVs were "a bit soulless" and criticised the use of their lithium-ion batteries.

He suggested solutions like drivers keeping the same car for longer periods of time and increased use of synthetic fuel would negate the need for EVs, saying: "Increasingly, I'm feeling that our honeymoon with electric cars is coming to an end, and that's no bad thing."

The actor, who described himself as a "car person" having got a degree in electrical and electronic engineering, said he advised friends to "hold fire for now" on EVs unless they have an old diesel vehicle.

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"There is an anti-EV story in the papers almost every day. Sometimes there are many stories, almost all of which are based on misconceptions and mistruths, unfortunately."

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