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This is a community dedicated to discussion around historical arms, mechanically unique arms, and Ian McCollum's Forgotten Weapons content. Posts requesting an identification of a particular gun (or other arm) are welcome.

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Rules:

1) Treat Others in a Civil Manner. This is not the place to deride others for their race, sexuality, or etc. Personal insults of other members are not welcome here. Neither are calls for violence.

2) No Contemporary Politics Historical politics that influenced designs or adoption of designs are excluded from this rule. Acknowledgement of existing laws to explain designs is also permissable, so long as comments aren't in made to advocate or oppose a policy. Let's not make this a place where we battle over which color ties our politicians should have, or the issues of today.

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5) No NSFW Content Please refrain from posting uncensored extreme gore or sexualized content. If censored these posts may be fine.

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-Posts do not have to be just firearms. Blades, bows, etc. are also welcome.

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I am looking around on lemmy.world for reenactment communities but I can't seem to find any. I am interested in anything but Civil War. Do you guys know of any?

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When Germany occupied Belgium in the summer of 1940, the took over the FN factory complex and ordered production of the High Power pistol to continue. It was put into German service as the Pistole 640(b), and nearly 325,000 of them were made between 1940 and 1944. The first ones were simply assembled from finished Belgian contact parts, and included all the features like shoulder stock slots and 500m tangent rear sights. As the war continued, however, production was simplified. The stock slots disappeared first, then the tangent sights, then the wooden grips (replaced by bakelite) and eventually even the magazine safety was omitted. Resistance among Belgian factory workers increased as well, with deliberate sabotage in the form of incorrect heat treating, errors in fine tolerance parts, and sometimes even spending lots of time to give a very fine surface finish instead of making more pistols.

These are a particularly popular subject of collecting, and there are a lot of nuances of the production and inspection marks that are worth understanding if you want to take them seriously. I highly recommend Anthony Vanderlinden’s 2-volume book “FN Browning Pistols” for very good detail on these, as well as other FN handguns: amzn.to/42Bc541

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German Occupation FN High Power Pistols

This video delves into the history of the Browning High Power pistols produced during the German occupation of Belgium in World War II. Host Ian McCullum discusses the variations, production processes, and the impact of German control on quality and design over the course of the war, highlighting the transition from Belgian to German production methods and the eventual decline in manufacturing standards due to resource shortages and sabotage by Belgian workers.

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Introduction to Browning High Power Pistols

Ian McCullum introduces a pair of German occupation Browning High Power pistols, explaining their significance and the variety of models produced during WWII. The video aims to trace the history from the start of the German occupation of Belgium to the end of high power production.

Belgian Production and German Occupation

Before the German occupation, Belgian produced the GP35 High Power pistols for their army. After Germany's invasion in 1940, the Belgians were forced to surrender their arms, including the high power pistols, which were integrated into German military service immediately.

Control and Production by FN

Despite being occupied, the Germans allowed the FN factory to continue producing High Power pistols due to their compatibility with German ammunition, unlike other captured factories. This section covers the transition in handguns from Belgian firearms to those assembled under German control.

Quality Decline Over Time

As the war progressed, the quality of the German production of high power pistols declined due to increased production demands and resource shortages, indicative of the challenges faced by manufacturers during wartime.

Serial Numbering and Markings

Discussions about the serial numbering system change during production, specifically how the Germans started their numbering at 50,000 to avoid overlaps and how they marked the pistols during both assembly and production, often omitting distinct German markings.

Simplification Changes

Starting in December 1940, the German military began making design simplifications to the High Power pistols, removing features like stock slots and tangent sights as part of their effort to streamline production.

Impact of Sabotage and Material Shortages

Belgian workers engaged in acts of sabotage during the waning years of the war, including either poor production quality or deliberately making finer guns to slow down the production rate, revealing resistance to German manufacturing control.

Post-War Production and Legacy

After the war, as FN reopens production for Allied troops, many mismatched parts and unfinished firearms are assembled, marking a continuation of the legacy of the High Power pistols from WWII into the post-war era.

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Sadly, I don't have a ton of information on this model. I stumbled across it on a Small Arms Illustrated page and poked around online.

The most complete information I could find was a photo of a snippet from a book:

Text from the photo:

Left side closeup of the final 7.62x39mm Finnish prototype, produced for trials in 1960, showing the unique features that it and only it embodied. This one-off was produced from a standard lower receiver with a modified magazine well, cut through the middle of the existing standard manufacturer's markings and retrofitted with a magazine guide behind the new, curved magazine.

The charging handle extension lever was reversible from the right to the left side, based on shooter preference. Note the flat-topped carrying handle, rounded at the rear to protect the rear sight, fitted with a range scale modified to fit the trajectory of the ballistically inefficient [🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸] Soviet round.

All of the remaining parts of the rifle, except for the chamber and actual bore diameter were identical to those of the standard Second Transitional carbine.

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Tag on sign: "English-made Kerr revolver. Many of these were smuggled through the Federal naval blockade aboard Confederate blockade runners."

Smithsonian website description of the Kerr:

The five-shot .44 caliber Kerr revolver was manufactured in England by the London Armoury Company and could be fired either single or double-action. Nearly all Kerr revolvers imported during the Civil War were purchased by the Confederacy and were preferred by many Confederate cavalrymen.

Patentee: Kerr, JamesMaker: London Armoury Company Place Made: United Kingdom: England, London

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Description excerpt:

The V3 London gun was designed as revenge weapon by Germany and designed to be permanently aimed at London 100 miles away. If fully built this would have been the longest gun in history. With a barrel over 440 feet long, that could hurl projectiles at speeds in excess of Mach 4. The Germans were built a huge underground complex in Northern France that was designed to house 25 of these guns to ensure a continuous bombardment of London.

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My freezer is getting low, so it was time to refill it - and I chose to do that this year at one of Outdoor Solutions' "Field to Table" classes. Set up with hunting outfitters around the country, this is a class where a professional chef who is also a hunter is brought in to teach a group of about 6 students the fundamentals of cleaning, butchering, and preparing wild game. It's intended for folks who have never hunted and aren't sure how to get into it as well as long-time hunters who have never done any meat processing and would like to learn that skill. This event was hosted by Legend Waterfowl in Talon, Oklahoma for deer and hog.

I was hoping to have a chance to get some insight into the performance of subsonic 8.6 Blackout on hogs, but alas I only saw one pig during the whole trip. I did take a whitetail deer though, and it has now been added to my freezer!

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Maybe this one deserved to be forgotten

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