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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 16 hours ago

Ah yes, the unbiased science reporter that is veg news.

https://archive.is/H8B5Y

TLDR: ultra processed foods are bad, but some fit into a vegan dietary pattern. Such as the nut milks

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 18 hours ago

Wow, great response - it's going to take some time to read the papers and get back to you, but i'll start here with the first study.

This study shows inflammatory markers are increased on a ketogenic diet: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6922028/

This was a 4 week high carb, 4 week low carb group. The order was not randomized!!! Adapting to a new metabolism takes on the order of 12 weeks (from the Noakes athletic performance studies)

Here is a 12 week study https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3845365/ Consuming a hypocaloric high fat low carbohydrate diet for 12 weeks lowers C-reactive protein, and raises serum adiponectin and high density lipoprotein-cholesterol in obese subjects

Relative to the LFHC group, the HFLC group had greater improvements in blood lipids and systemic inflammation with similar changes in body weight and composition. This small-scale study suggests that HFLC diets may be more beneficial to cardiovascular health and inflammation in free-living obese adults compared to LFHC diets.

I'll make each of these papers a post in the keto group here and go over them in detail. This is a great set of research to dig into, thank you.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 18 hours ago

It's a well cited page with links to studies for every claim - It's as good as it gets.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -1 points 18 hours ago

I live in a part of the world where beef is not subsidized. Even here the butchers give away fat (the cuttings / trimmings from their other products). The protein requirements on a carnivore diet are not different then any other diet, the rest of the diet can be made up of inexpensive fat.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 18 hours ago

Oh that is great news, can you point me at that epidemical study?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 18 hours ago

The value of seeing how long adults live tells us alot about our history. If we know historically adults could live into old age we can learn about disease progression over historical records as well as from archaeological bone surveys.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Why is a eating pattern egoistic?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 18 hours ago

LDL is not a disease, its necessary for human life. Damaged (Oxidated, and Glycated) LDL is a indicator of significant cardiovascular problem, but undamaged LDL is not a disease. If someone has elevated LDL and they are not eating a sugar heavy diet, they should get plaque imaging to see what their actual atherosclerotic risk is.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Most recent studies of long term ketosis show accelerated aging markers

That is interesting, what study was that? What were the markers they used?

some potentially harmful increases in LDL and VLDL cholesterol

Potentially is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. The only group following keto which see a increase in LDL is the lean-mass-hyper-responder phenotype. There is some interesting research being released on this group Paper - Plaque Begets Plaque, ApoB Does Not: Longitudinal Data From the KETO-CTA Trial - 2025. However, Cholesterol is not a disease - its essential for life - the concern has never been cholesterol but atherosclerosis - if someone has elevated LDL, undamanged and unglycated (as on keto) and they are concerned they should get a CAC score so they can see their actual plaque burden.

There are plenty of issues with people on carnivore diets

I'd like to learn what those problems are, I'm currently following a carnivore diet and as far as my reading has gone there are not any downsides.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 day ago

I highly recommend getting a home blood pressure cuff, and recording your blood pressure readings in the spreadsheet. It'll be great for you to see trends over time. And your doctor will like it too if you can bring the spreadsheet into next visit.

I had very high blood pressure, I did keto for 6 months and completely resolved it. And I have the spreadsheet documenting the entire journey. It's gratifying to look backwards at

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Life expectancy in 1875 in the USA was 39.41 years.

This is true, but this is the mean. This includes everybody who dies in childhood. If you made it to 10 years old you are likely to live until 60.

https://www.infoplease.com/us/health-statistics/life-expectancy-age-1850-2011

This is exactly why the office of the President requires a minimum age of 35. It wasn't because they were going to die in 4 years, it was because they had the expectation they had lived for a lot longer.

 

Do we really need fiber for gut health, or have we been misled by outdated science? In this video, Dr. Eric Westman reacts to a breakdown by Nick Norwitz, MD, PhD, who explores new research on fiber, inflammation, microbiome diversity, and digestive disease.

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Finally Ending The Debate! Do You Really Need Fiber? - Doctor Reacts

Dr. Eric Westman discusses the misconceptions surrounding fiber intake and gut health, referencing a breakdown by Nick Norwitz, MD. The video explores the idea that fiber may not be as essential as commonly believed, particularly in the context of low-carb and carnivore diets, and emphasizes that individual dietary needs can vary greatly.

Key Points

Fiber is not essential for everyone.

The video argues that many people have been misled into believing that fiber is crucial for gut health. Dr. Westman challenges this notion, suggesting that some individuals may thrive on low or no fiber diets, particularly those following low-carb or carnivore diets.

Colon cancer and fiber connection debunked.

Dr. Westman references a large randomized control trial that found no significant link between fiber intake and a reduction in colon cancer or polyps, calling into question longstanding medical teachings about fiber's protective effects.

Inflammatory responses to fiber.

Some studies indicate that certain individuals may experience increased inflammation as a response to dietary fiber, raising the question of whether fiber is beneficial or harmful on an individual basis.

Microbiome diversity is complex.

The video discusses concerns that eliminating fiber may reduce microbiome diversity. However, studies show that individuals on low-fiber diets, such as those following a carnivore diet, can maintain microbiome diversity similar to that of omnivores.

Short-chain fatty acids production.

Critics of low-fiber diets argue that they reduce beneficial compounds like short-chain fatty acids. However, evidence suggests that ketogenic diets do not significantly decrease these compounds, asserting that fiber's necessity for their production is overstated.

Fiber reduction for gastrointestinal issues.

For some, particularly those with gastrointestinal conditions like IBS, reducing or eliminating fiber can result in symptom relief, suggesting that dietary approaches should be personalized.

Context and individual response matter.

The key takeaway is that fiber is not inherently good or bad; its effectiveness depends on individual dietary contexts and microbiome responses. Each person's experience with fiber consumption can vary significantly.

 

Characterizing the potential health effects of exposure to risk factors such as red meat consumption is essential to inform health policy and practice. Previous meta-analyses evaluating the effects of red meat intake have generated mixed findings and do not formally assess evidence strength. Here, we conducted a systematic review and implemented a meta-regression— relaxing conventional log-linearity assumptions and incorporating between-study heterogeneity—to evaluate the relation-ships between unprocessed red meat consumption and six potential health outcomes. We found weak evidence of association between unprocessed red meat consumption and colorectal cancer, breast cancer, type 2 diabetes and ischemic heart disease. Moreover, we found no evidence of an association between unprocessed red meat and ischemic stroke or hemorrhagic stroke. We also found that while risk for the six outcomes in our analysis combined was minimized at 0 g unprocessed red meat intake per day, the 95% uncertainty interval that incorporated between-study heterogeneity was very wide: from 0–200 g d−1. While there is some evidence that eating unprocessed red meat is associated with increased risk of disease incidence and mortality, it is weak and insufficient to make stronger or more conclusive recommendations. More rigorous, well-powered research is needed to better understand and quantify the relationship between consumption of unprocessed red meat and chronic disease.

Full Paper - https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-022-01968-z

 

https://youtu.be/j1cqNDDG4aA

Dr Anthony Chaffee is an American medical doctor specialising in Neurosurgery who over a span of 20 years has researched the optimal nutritional habits for athletic performance and health. It is his assertion that most of the so-called chronic diseases that doctors treat these days are actually caused by the food we eat, or don’t eat, and can in many cases be reversed easily with dietary changes.

Dr. Chaffee began his University education studying Molecular & Cellular Biology with a Minor in Chemistry at the University of Washington in Seattle at the age of 15, which culminated in attaining his MD from the Royal College of Surgeons.

Dr. Chaffee is an All-American rugby player and a former professional athlete in England and America, having taken several years off from his education for the pursuit of sports between his undergraduate degree and medical school. Throughout his athletic career he saw first hand the monumental difference that diet makes to performance and recovery.

Dr. Chaffee almost accidentally came across and practiced a fully carnivorous diet from age 20 to 25, having first learned of the toxic nature of plants during his University education. Since then he has rediscovered this truth and more and has dedicated many years and a large part of his professional practice to the study and education of diet and nutrition. He personally practices a fully carnivorous diet and currently resides in Perth, Australia where he does private consultations and clinics in functional medicine and nutrition.

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Dr. Anthony Chaffee - 'Plants are trying to kill you!'

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Dr. Anthony Chaffee discusses the nutritional dangers of plants, arguing that they contain toxic defense chemicals which can be harmful to human health. He explains how plants evolve to protect themselves, leading to the presence of various toxins that can cause adverse health effects. He promotes a meat-based diet, suggesting that eliminating plants can lead to significant health improvements.

Key Points

Plants' defense mechanisms

Plants are living organisms that develop defense mechanisms to prevent being eaten by animals. These defenses often take the form of toxic chemicals designed to harm or kill herbivores, making many plants inedible for humans and animals alike.

Toxic chemicals in common vegetables

Dr. Chaffee presents evidence that many commonly consumed vegetables, including Brussel sprouts, spinach, and almonds, contain harmful toxins and carcinogens. He emphasizes that these naturally occurring substances can lead to serious health issues over time.

The role of lectins

Lectins, a type of protein found in various plant foods, are linked to negative health effects including digestive issues and autoimmune diseases. They can interfere with insulin and leptin signaling, contributing to overeating and metabolic disorders.

Misconceptions about plant-based diets

Chaffee argues against the common belief that plant-based diets are inherently healthy. He points out that many plant foods contain natural pesticides and toxins that far exceed those found in processed foods.

Evolutionary co-adaptation

The evolutionary arms race between plants and animals has led to specialized diets in certain species that can consume plants without harmful effects. Most animals do not have the adaptations needed to safely consume many plants, highlighting the risks associated with a plant-heavy human diet.

 

https://youtu.be/t7M8WwuLx9o

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Dr. Anthony Chaffee - 'The Real Healthcare Crisis: Causes & Solutions'

Dr. Anthony Chaffee discusses the growing healthcare crisis marked by an increase in non-communicable chronic diseases (NCDs) such as diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and Alzheimer's. He emphasizes the failures in nutritional education and the influence of processed foods and bad dietary guidelines as major causes of this crisis. By promoting a carnivore diet and low-carb approaches, Dr. Chaffee provides potential solutions for reversing these diseases and improving overall health.

Key Points

Increase in NCDs

Chaffee highlights a worrying rise in non-communicable diseases (NCDs) like diabetes and heart diseases, which are the leading causes of death worldwide, suggesting a strong correlation to dietary issues.

Failures of Current Dietary Guidelines

Dr. Chaffee criticizes nutritional guidelines that have led to higher rates of chronic diseases, particularly emphasizing the impact of processed foods and sugars that have been recommended to replace traditional diets.

Impact of the Carnivore Diet

He advocates for a carnivore diet as a solution to combat the epidemic of chronic diseases, showcasing its effectiveness in reversing conditions like type 2 diabetes and improving mental health.

Economic Burden of Healthcare

The discussion includes the financial implications of rising NCDs, with projected health-related costs soaring due to the treatment of these preventable diseases, suggesting an urgent need for dietary reform.

Historical Context of Disease

Chaffee traces the history of NCDs, noting their dramatic increase in the 20th century coinciding with shifts in dietary practices, including the decline in meat consumption and the rise of processed foods.

Call to Action

The presentation concludes with a call for individuals to take charge of their health through dietary changes, encouraging community discussions and education to foster awareness about proper nutrition and health.

 
  • Brain fog went away
  • Snoring went away
  • Back pain went away
  • Less time spent eating.
  • Sleep improved
  • Congestive heart failure resolved.

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I Tried Carnivore Diet for 7, 70 & 700 Days… Here’s What Happened

In this video, the host discusses his transformative journey on the carnivore diet over 7, 70, and 700 days, highlighting significant health improvements and changes in his mental state. Initially struggling with obesity and depression, he finds relief and healing through a meat-based diet, ultimately reversing health conditions and achieving sustained energy and clarity.

Key Points

Starting the Carnivore Diet

The first seven days on the carnivore diet felt overwhelming. The host was initially skeptical about consuming only meat but motivated by years of health struggles, he committed to a 30-day strict elimination diet. Over this period, he had to adapt mentally to the drastic change, grappling with the reality of a meat-based diet.

Transition to Ketosis

Between days 8 to 70, the individual experienced a significant transformation as his body adapted to burning fat for fuel. This period was marked by weight loss, reduced inflammation, improved mood, and the disappearance of mental fog, highlighting the diet's benefits.

Long-Term Effects and Maintenance

Post day 70 and into day 700, the host describes how his perception of food changed permanently. He no longer viewed food as an addiction but as sustenance. His health continued to improve, including the reversal of congestive heart failure, showcasing that a carnivore diet can maintain health and vitality.

The Importance of Clean Meat

Throughout his journey, the host discussed the quality of meat consumption, primarily focusing on grass-fed or pasture-raised options that avoid glyphosate and other substances harmful to health, reinforcing the need for clean food choices.

Documenting His Journey

The host emphasizes that his experiences led him to create a documentary aimed at sharing the healing potential of a proper human diet. He advocates for spreading awareness about the benefits of the carnivore diet for mental and physical health.

 

Joy Villa is a Billboard-charting singer, actress, and political commentator who spent 25 years following a vegan lifestyle. In this episode, she opens up about her powerful journey of transitioning to a carnivore-based diet — and the dramatic improvements it brought to her health and well-being.

We dive into:

  • Why she left veganism behind after decades
  • What happened to her body and energy after eating meat again
  • The science and logic that led her to embrace animal-based nutrition
  • Her thoughts on mainstream nutrition and the cultural shift toward whole foods
  • Joy brings honesty, passion, and firsthand experience to the conversation — offering insight - for anyone questioning the standard dietary narrative or curious about the carnivore lifestyle.

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Joy Villa, a former vegan for 25 years and a personal trainer, shares her health and fitness journey. In a candid conversation with Dr. Anthony Chaffee, she discusses her switch to a carnivore diet after experiencing poor health outcomes as a vegan. They explore the nutritional deficiencies of veganism, the pushback she received from the vegan community, and the benefits she’s found in eating meat. The discussion also touches on societal views around diet, health, and the importance of individual experimentation in finding what works best for one’s body.

Key Points

Joy Villa's Background and Veganism

Joy Villa opens up about her past as a vegan for 25 years, where she actively promoted a plant-based lifestyle through her fitness company and music career. She discusses the challenges and controversies she faced while identifying as a vegan.

Transition to Carnivore Diet

Joy describes her gradual shift from veganism to a carnivore diet, citing health struggles and a revelation about the deficiencies and strictness of veganism. Her switch involved listening to her body's needs and truly questioning her previous dietary beliefs.

Pushback from the Vegan Community

Upon announcing her transition to carnivore, Joy faced significant backlash from the vegan community, encountering harsh criticism and personal attacks from former supporters. She examines the ideological rigidity that often characterizes veganism.

Nutritional Insights

Throughout the podcast, Joy and Dr. Chaffee discuss the nutritional benefits of a carnivore diet, highlighting the potential deficiencies in plant-based diets. They explore how the body needs certain nutrients that are primarily found in animal products.

The Importance of Individual Experimentation

A key message in the conversation is the importance of trying different diets to understand personal health needs. Both Joy and Dr. Chaffee emphasize that individuals should experiment with their diets and make informed decisions based on their own experiences.

Cultural Perspectives on Diet

The podcast touches on the wider societal views surrounding diet, including the stigma against meat consumption. The hosts challenge the popular narratives promoted by the health industry, encouraging listeners to explore the natural human inclination toward meat consumption.

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Today I passed a goal! I've been doing carnivore for almost 10 months and I'm down 40kg as of this morning

I feel great, my gym performance is up, my joints feel much better. the food is delicious. This has been the best thing I've ever done for myself

I feel like a totally different person.

I haven't been perfect, but I've been mostly on plan the whole time.

 

A great video about daily on the ground applied carnivore with real patients.

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Lessons Learned from our Carnivore Patients: Tracking, Supplements, and Perfect Carnivore

In this episode, Judy Cho and practitioner Cheryl Huftlin discuss insights gained from working with carnivore diet clients. They address the nuances of personalized dietary approaches, the importance of mind-body practices, and how supplements can aid healing. Their new practice, Empower Functional Health, expands the scope of care beyond nutrition, incorporating holistic health and functional medicine. The conversation emphasizes hope for clients facing chronic illness and the value of tracking dietary and emotional changes to enhance wellness.

Key Points

Personalization of Carnivore Diet

The discussion highlights that there isn't a 'one-size-fits-all' approach to the carnivore diet. Each client's journey is unique, and factors like individual symptoms and dietary choices play a critical role in defining their personal carnivore experience, stressing that some deviations can be beneficial for their well-being.

Mind-Body Connection

A significant part of healing involves the mind-body connection. Incorporating practices like meditation and mindfulness helps clients shift focus from rigid dietary rules to a more holistic healing approach, facilitating personal growth and emotional healing.

Importance of Tracking

Clients are encouraged to track their symptoms and dietary intake to uncover patterns that may lead to improved health outcomes. This tracking can reveal unexpected insights into how specific foods and habits affect their well-being, fostering a deeper understanding of their body's responses.

Supplementation for Healing

Despite the carnivore diet's emphasis on whole foods, the use of supplements can play a critical role in supporting those who have been chronically ill. Many clients may need additional digestive support and nutrients due to long-term dietary deficiencies.

Empower Functional Health Launch

The establishment of Empower Functional Health marks a significant shift in Judy's practice, moving beyond just nutrition to include a comprehensive approach to health, integrating functional medicine and holistic care to better serve clients seeking root cause healing.

 

Youth mental illness is on the rise, and treatment options are often limited, especially for kids with bipolar disorder. This Mental Health Awareness Month, we’re highlighting a groundbreaking new real-world data collection funded by the Baszucki Group exploring ketogenic therapy as a promising intervention for children and adolescents living with bipolar disorder.

In this interview, Elizabeth Errico, founder of the Children's Mental Health Resource Center (CMHRC), shares how her organization is implementing ketogenic therapy in a real-world setting for kids aged 6 to 17. The year-long study is part of a larger initiative supported by the Baszucki Group to expand mental health care options through metabolic approaches.

Families in the program receive education, hands-on support, and guidance to help implement this dietary therapy at home—often with life-changing results.

In this video, you’ll learn:

Why early diagnosis and support for pediatric bipolar disorder is so critical How ketogenic therapy is being applied to youth in a structured, supportive way What families need to implement this therapy successfully Early anecdotal outcomes from participating families Why this research could help shift mainstream mental health treatment

This is about more than data—it's about hope, empowerment, and building a better path forward for families navigating serious mental illness.

Expert Featured: Elizabeth Errico linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-errico-746995180 cmhrc.org

Other Resources Mentioned: Managing Major Mental Illness with Dietary Change: The New Science of Hope mycme.com/courses/managing-major-mental-illness-with-dietary-change-9616

Brain Energy: The Metabolic Theory of Mental Illness mycme.com/courses/brain-energy-the-metabolic-theory-of-mental-illness-9615

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What Happens When Kids Try Keto for Bipolar? featuring Elizabeth Errico

The video features an interview with Elizabeth Errico from the Children's Mental Health Resource Center, discussing a groundbreaking study on ketogenic therapy aimed at children aged 6 to 17 with bipolar disorder. They explore the successes and challenges faced by families, the importance of tailored support for treatment, and insights into the needs of children with mental health issues, emphasizing the potential of ketogenic diets as a promising intervention.

Key Points

Support for Bipolar Disorder

The Children's Mental Health Resource Center (CHRC) provides bespoke case management for families of children with bipolar disorder, addressing the common issue of misdiagnosis and delays in treatment.

Introduction of Ketogenic Therapy

CHRC is implementing ketogenic therapy as a low-risk intervention, responding to families' needs for manageable at-home solutions while waiting for professional psychiatric support.

Positive Anecdotal Feedback

Families have reported profound changes in their quality of life, with significant reductions in symptoms for children undergoing ketogenic therapy, despite the research data still being collected.

Challenges in Implementation

Families often struggle with misconceptions about ketogenic diets. CHRC emphasizes the need for education on meal planning, nutrition labels, and providing emotional support for families to adhere to dietary changes.

Importance of Family Engagement

The involvement of family members in the ketogenic diet is crucial. Successful adherence improves when siblings or other household members participate.

Provider Engagement and Education

CHRC assists families in engaging with healthcare providers who may be skeptical about ketogenic therapy, providing educational materials to help families advocate for their children.

Long-Term Program Development

The CHRC aims to create a sustainable and affordable program for ketogenic therapy, including ongoing support, psycho-education, and the collection of qualitative data to inform their interventions.

Creation of Parenting Programs

In addition to dietary interventions, CHRC offers courses focusing on parenting techniques tailored for children with mental illnesses, addressing their unique behavioral needs.

 

Mick talks about his journey on the carnivore diet and how he reduced his calcified plaque by 20%.

This is a slide show on Mick's findings and theories, he is not a doctor, but a motivated engineer (his plaque) so have a grain of salt handy. I found it fascinating, especially his model of the atherosclerotic feedback cycle.

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20% Plaque Reduction – Here's What I Did

In this video, Mick shares his experience on the carnivore diet and discusses how he managed to reduce his calcified plaque by 20%. He details his dietary practices, the measures he took to address his cholesterol levels, and the importance of understanding various health factors associated with heart disease. Mick emphasizes a holistic approach to health, exploring lifestyle changes instead of solely relying on medications such as statins.

Key Points

Mick's carnivore diet journey

Mick began his carnivore journey about four years ago after experiencing mild health issues on a low-carb diet. His journey was instigated by a concerning calcium score. As an engineer, he sought to understand and rectify the underlying issues he faced.

Calcium score reduction

Mick reports a 19 to 20% reduction in his calcium score and plaque volume after following strict carnivore dietary guidelines. This success was measured using consistent laboratory methods and comparisons.

The importance of multiple health factors

Mick explains that heart issues stem from various insults to the body (like inflammation and diet) rather than just cholesterol levels. He stresses the need for a comprehensive understanding of health factors contributing to plaque buildup.

Dietary modifications and supplements

He shares details about his strict diet, which includes steak, eggs, and some dairy, combined with supplements like vitamin C, K2, omega-3, and CoQ10 to support his heart health.

Critique of conventional treatments

Mick criticizes the use of statins and other medications as inadequate solutions for heart health, arguing that lifestyle adjustments and supplements offer better pathways for improving cardiovascular health.

Necessity of holistic health approaches

He encourages viewers to adopt a multifactorial approach to health, addressing various dietary and lifestyle elements rather than relying solely on pills.”},{

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