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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago (13 children)

To me retro is not just about age but also how those particular games are historically situated within the development of gaming. Retro implies pre-3d (console) gaming, so N64/PS1 onwards isn't retro no matter how old those consoles are relative to the present. Retro itself can be broadly divided between pre-1983 crash (Space Invaders, Pac-Man, Breakout, Centipede) and post-1983 crash (Contra, Streets of Rage, Final Fantasy 1, Wolfenstein 3D). The early retro games people remember are all arcade games while the late retro games are where you start seeing franchises like Mario and Zelda.

Due to how janky early 3d is, the N64/PS1 generation is at this awkward period of time where it's not really retro anymore but is not modern either. I mostly see it as a transitional period between late retro gaming (SNES) and early modern gaming (Gamecube, PS2).

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Yeah that's the millennial perspective on retro gaming that held sway during the 2010s. Its time has passed, I'm sad to say. The 2010s were to the 80s/90s split as the 2020s are to the 90s/2000s split. The retro aesthetic of a lot of games now draws from the early 3D era, like SIGNALIS.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess my point is that regardless of what particular label someone uses, the development of gaming can be split into various periods just like how the history of painting can be split into various periods. It's just weird to have a floating label that basically means "old." When I was a kid, "old games" were essentially just pre-1983 crash games while "modern games" were post-1983 crash games because gaming was only two decades old. But now, gaming is a little over half a century old at this point.

In the end, I think "retro" is used in gaming in the same way "classic" is used in film and movie. Casablanca and The Godfather are both classic films even though they have nothing in common outside of being old Hollywood films.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Classic seems to be a good word to use when trying to communicate considered good and worth talking about X years later where the line is arbitrary but X is probably something like 10 or 20 years. It'll include items that truly stand the test of time and others that are incomprehensible/boring if you weren't in it's historical context to "get it".

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