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[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago (9 children)

The PS3 is a retro console. The wii is a retro console. Xbone 360 is a retro console.

If you disagree, you are old.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They still have active online services lea-sweat

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, the Wii doesn't lol. Because Nintendo sucks ass.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At least there are fanmade online services though :)

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait what? How do they work? Do I have to jailbreak the Wii first ?

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Uh you might, tbf Letterbomb is not hard. The ones I know of are CGTP-Revolution and the RiiConnect24 service.

There's a fanmade Motorstorm PS3 server you don't have to jailbreak for so maybe you won't need to hack?

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is there a different term for what NES and SNES are? Calling both them and the PS3 retro makes retro a little vague

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they've gone beyond retro. they're like, what you think the Atari 2600 or the BBC Micro are.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't see Atari 2600 or Xbox 360 games on https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/retro , but I see lots of NES and SNES. That seems to be most popular with retro gamers

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The PS3 is a retro console.

That's an affordable Blu-ray player.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

I have mixed opinions about this because the PS3 is often noisy, which is less than optimal for movie watching. Players like the Sony S350 became cheap and common a long time ago...

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

I'm at the point where I can accept the PS2/Gamecube era as being retro but this actually kills me.

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The one that really fucks me up is the PS3 and 360, how can the generation of DLC be RETRO???

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Most of this year's college freshman were born after the Xbox 360 was released.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if it'll happen but I'm gonna be tickled if games ever develop academicly studied eras like films do. Like the whole silent era, golden age, Hollywood Renaissance, new wave, etc thing.

"Oh, you enjoy Dig-Dug? A classic from the Namco golden era. Personally I'm more into the early British wave of ZX Spectrum titles. The Stamper brothers were autuers, ahead of their time. Have you played Atic Atac? The origins of the standard life bar."

Actually now that I type this out this is just what white guy 45 minute video essays are

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

if you carry the love of video games in your heart, this has already happened.

there are people who absolutely love british speccy titles, and they are perverts.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i like amiga games so i'm not much better

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

at least you have cool music

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean, that's 99% what is going to happen. Unless civilization ends, I'm certain there will be people who study "ancient" games.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago (4 children)

need a :sanae-shocked: emote

[–] axont@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

More touhou emotes in general please

i-love-not-thinking reisen-dance

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[–] mustGo@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

This is important.

[–] asante@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago
[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I stopped paying attention to consoles after the 360 generation so now whenever I hear someone talk about them I'm like "they're on the PS what now?!"

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mostly this, but I can guess the current PlayStation by dividing the years since 1990 by 6.

Meanwhile who knows what the fuck the Xbox is doing.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

We're excited to announce the xXx_Xbox420SeriesThreeSixtyX_xXx and XxX_Xbox69SeriesThreeSixtyS_XxX

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The DS was so fucking good. Probably the best console of all time, not even joking

[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah honestly. 3DS was pretty solid too.

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 13 points 11 months ago

I'll consider the N64 unambiguously retro at the same point when I consider the PS5 retro.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

oooaaaaaaauhhh Me when they start calling some videos games antique

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

The NES is as old now as a 1946 Ford Deluxe was when it came out.

[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

New Super Mario Bros. is almost 20 years old

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

My literal childhood game

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

To me retro is not just about age but also how those particular games are historically situated within the development of gaming. Retro implies pre-3d (console) gaming, so N64/PS1 onwards isn't retro no matter how old those consoles are relative to the present. Retro itself can be broadly divided between pre-1983 crash (Space Invaders, Pac-Man, Breakout, Centipede) and post-1983 crash (Contra, Streets of Rage, Final Fantasy 1, Wolfenstein 3D). The early retro games people remember are all arcade games while the late retro games are where you start seeing franchises like Mario and Zelda.

Due to how janky early 3d is, the N64/PS1 generation is at this awkward period of time where it's not really retro anymore but is not modern either. I mostly see it as a transitional period between late retro gaming (SNES) and early modern gaming (Gamecube, PS2).

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah that's the millennial perspective on retro gaming that held sway during the 2010s. Its time has passed, I'm sad to say. The 2010s were to the 80s/90s split as the 2020s are to the 90s/2000s split. The retro aesthetic of a lot of games now draws from the early 3D era, like SIGNALIS.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I completely missed out on the PS1 so the rise of all these faux-retro games with polygon jitter is honestly pretty cool. Helps that we've learned how to make games feel better than the first time they looked like this.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The time of millennials has passed.

Now is the time for the zillenials! (for at least a few years before we get leaped over lol)

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess my point is that regardless of what particular label someone uses, the development of gaming can be split into various periods just like how the history of painting can be split into various periods. It's just weird to have a floating label that basically means "old." When I was a kid, "old games" were essentially just pre-1983 crash games while "modern games" were post-1983 crash games because gaming was only two decades old. But now, gaming is a little over half a century old at this point.

In the end, I think "retro" is used in gaming in the same way "classic" is used in film and movie. Casablanca and The Godfather are both classic films even though they have nothing in common outside of being old Hollywood films.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Classic seems to be a good word to use when trying to communicate considered good and worth talking about X years later where the line is arbitrary but X is probably something like 10 or 20 years. It'll include items that truly stand the test of time and others that are incomprehensible/boring if you weren't in it's historical context to "get it".

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

retro implies pre-3D

I think any societal consensus puts N64 firmly, like unquestionably in retro status.

The N64 is older to us than the Atari 2600 was when the N64 came out. By almost a decade.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Only the finest 16 bit games for my anime wife.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At this point if a console doesn't have an HDMI port, it's retro.

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Just wait until the ps5 is a retro console

[–] DickFuckarelli@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

If the MiSTer can't play it, it's not retro.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

I’m still surprised the DS and PSP can be emulated.

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