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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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Pretending like not voting means you're not doing anything is a logical fallacy. People aren't arguing for nothing, they're arguing that voting, at best, does nothing.

"You have to participate" sure, but only in a very specific way. You can't vote for anyone other than these two candidates or your vote is "wasted" never mind the fact that both are creating the fascist hellscape you're fearmongering about. The idea that voting for Biden does anything than further entrench a broken system is beyond flawed, it's downright ridiculous! The "lesser evil" argument has been made since 1972 and all it has brought us is the devolution of so many civil rights political activists have fought for. We're now at a point where the lesser evil is a more competent genocide.

Furthermore it's ironic to try to use identity politics to argue for Biden, when it is only straight white men who might be able to consider themselves safe under his regime.

Voting for either of those two goons does nothing but legitimise their rule and confirm them in the fact that their people don't care about genocide or deteriorating conditions as long as it's their team in power.

If democracy was truly at stake, if the republicans were truly as dangerous (and treasonous) as you suggest, then Joe Biden should use his newly created presidential superpowers to have them all killed or at the very least imprisoned. The fact that he doesn't, the fact that he does absolutely nothing to stop the people you're scaremongering about (besides beg for your vote) means that he either doesn't give a shit or that he knows it's not as dire as people in his camp make it out to be.

Voting for Biden encourages genocide. Voting for a third party encourages opposition, not voting means you haven't wasted an afternoon. Striking or sabotaging stops arms shipments going to Israel, as has already happened many times. We are however not in a discussion of what constitutes effective direct action, we're in a discussion of why voting for Biden isn't good.