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[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 97 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The world would be a better place if locked bootloaders were not a thing. I agree that there needs to be laws in place to prevent the sale of these devices.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago

Locked in the technical sense of being able to verify the operating system isn't a bad thing. The problem is when the device owner can't add signing keys of their choice.

The latter is what GrapheneOS does.

[–] henfredemars 25 points 6 months ago

I don’t have a problem with boot loaders doing cryptographic checks in general, as long as the ultimate decision lies with the device owner.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine a PC with a locked bootloader.

Imagine having to purchase a new PC to simply be able to get updates. Or be locked to windows for life and not have an option to install Linux, BSD, whatever else.

There is zero reason to restrict installing a new os or firmware on a phone except planned obsolescence

[–] bier@feddit.nl 7 points 6 months ago

Imagine buying a PC but only be able to install anything from one app store made by the manufacturer

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

How do you feel about locked bootloader's on game consoles?

I figure this is one of those edge cases people might fall on either side of. But consoles are also a really large segment of the tech market, so it's worth thinking about.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The PS3 used to have an unlocked bootloader with official Linux support. Sony removed it because of piracy. Of course, piracy is still possible, but as always, it's only an excuse to exert more control over customers.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That's pretty cool though, I'm glad they at least experimented with it. I wonder if they just chickened out at some point or if they actually found a steep increase in piracy?