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[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago (35 children)

If you scroll down it at least gives you the vibe of what the "Western Diet" is:

A high-fat, low-fibre Western-style diet (WD) induces microbiome dysbiosis characterized by reduced taxonomic diversity and metabolic breadth, which in turn increases risk for a wide array of metabolic, immune and systemic pathologies.

So, the Western Diet could still be plant-based, if all the only definition is "high-fat, low-fibre"

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol -2 points 1 month ago (28 children)

Fiber = plant fiber

How can you have a plant based diet that is low in plant fiber?

[–] xep@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Processed grains are still plant based, so eat lots of white bread.

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wouldn’t that be a processed grains based diet instead of a plant based diet since it is only including processed grains and excludes all other forms of plants?

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It seems disingenuous to claim a diet that excludes all plants except for lowest fiber foods is plant based or low fiber.

Especially since you can still get your daily fiber needs from white bread which contradicts the claim.

[–] xep@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Adding ketchup on the bread and drinking fruit juices sweetened with high fructose corn syrup will increase the number of plant sources in such a diet without increasing dietary fiber. My point is, it's not plant variety that matters, but how heavily processed the plants are.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Idk how popular fruit juices are anymore, everyone buys the "healthier" versions, like growing up id say you're accurate, just ketchup on bread is not a dish of any kind lol

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ketchup, bread and fruit juice all have fiber. So they do in fact increase the dietary fiber.

Whether or not your diet is “low fiber” is decided by how much of these things you eat. If you eat a low quantity your diet will be low in fiber.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder what the "Western Style" diet consists of then, since it so low in fiber.

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Animal products would be my guess since they don’t contain any fiber at all.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So just meat without anything else?

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 2 points 1 month ago

Since fiber only comes from plants, it’s implied that “low-fiber diet” just means less fiber than what we need. Not necessarily meat without anything else.

[–] xep@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

Hey it's fine, it sounds like your mind is already made up. You shouldn't worry too much about what random strangers say on the internet either way.

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