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[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Isn't that still better than only a single state-controlled media?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Of course, because only those two very specific options can/will/do exist.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What options did Lenin have in mind for an authoritarian communist state?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

None. The goal was a classless, stateless society. The exact opposite of an authoritarian state.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

He was a vanguard single party advocate.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

And how did that turn out?

[–] WEFshill202@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

This goal almost immediately collapsed when he found out not everyone agreed with him. Then he became an authoritarian so clearly he didn't think they were opposites.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk -3 points 8 months ago

That was never a goal. The only real goal of a communist is genocide.

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which further options have you been taught of?

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, one option at most, seems the worst.

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where you don't elect the editor?

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 1 points 8 months ago

To quote a guy is not the same as to subscribe to all of his actions.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes it is.

The point you're evading is that having the press controlled by six oligarchs also isnt a free press.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I'm not talking at all about free presses. The Soviet Union didn't have a free press and was controlled by 1 entity instead of 6 - which is much worse - which was my point I was trying to make.