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This. The solution is a people-carrier. The ground clearance of an SUV or the cargo bed of a pickup truck won't help with anything.
The ID. Buzz looks pretty sick atm, but it's a tad expensive.
Plus it only has two cup holders.
Wow. My old broke down Kia minivan has thirteen cupholders.
My old Odyssey had 18!
That's honestly crazy. I used to joke that the van has 13 cupholders and 7 seats because in Korea it's a 13 seater. But in what world are you using 18?
That is really cool, I wish it was more practical for me, and that is more than just the expensive price tag. I've purchased quite a few new vehicles, but none of them were ever over $22k. I do like a lot about it, but I also regularly drive long distances on remote dirt/unimproved roads and sometimes drive cross country for 20 hours nonstop. So for now a smaller vehicle with more ground clearance and range makes more sense.