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I was a search and rescue mountaineer/EMT for a decade. I'm an engineer/analyst for my day job. I am good at math and interpreting data, interested in the mountains, and fascinated by risk/perceptions of risk.
The most dangerous part of most mountain trips is the drive to the trailhead. Driving is so much more dangerous than just about anything else in our society, but everyone does it all the time so most people never think about it.
Your attitude is only warranted for really high risk level activities, like wing suit base jumps. Rock climbing and mountaineering are generally quite safe compared to risks that most of Western society fully embraces.
Are you counting the drive as more dangerous because many people do it and thus more die of it or are you actually arguing it is more dangerous per hour to be on the road than on a rock face?
I have serious doubts about the second when deaths per billion vehicle miles are easily 2.5ish given safe newer model.
I ran the numbers per hour on mountaineering (related to rock climbing, but not exactly the same) and driving is more dangerous as of about 6 years ago (when I ran the numbers).
I believe the fatality rates on rock climbing are similar, but don't quote me on it.
The bottom line truth is, mountain recreation isn't nearly as dangerous as people think it is.
You ran the numbers but you didn't post them.
Do you have the numbers you ran 6 years ago? I'm not that organized.
I'm just going to assume you are making it up then
Suit yourself
How is climbing so safe, when you can slip, equipment can fail, weather could bring additional risk, a rock can fail under you and so on?
Any of that can happen just by stepping outside of your house.
With the same level of probability?
I have no idea how to begin measuring that.
If they can measure force in Newtons I see no reason we couldn't measure danger in Napoleons. Let's say Napoleon was responsible for 4 million deaths in Europe, that would mean the annual US traffic fatalities of around 40,000 would be 1 Centinapoleon.
Hope that clears things up.
Training, decent modern equipment, understanding and managing risk, gear redundancy, and wear a frickin' helmet (esp. when belaying).
Yeah, there are some yahoos, but there're also people who drop dead playing table-tennis.
Life is dangerous. Seriously, you can easily slip, fall, and die in your bathroom.
Statistics are how we determine how risky an activity is. Mountaineering and rock climbing are statistically safer than driving. Yes, driving is dangerous, but nobody says shit about not having compassion for those who die because they take a road trip.
All of those risks you mention associated with climbing exist, but you're dramatically overestimating how common they are
You’re not wrong but we need to ban travel to mountains based solely on tire pollution alone. It’s not our right to destroy all these areas the way we do